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Bring Back Fortress Fratton



The Fratton Faithful have always been famed as the best fans in the land. Milan said so again the other day. But we've talked at length on these boards recently about the dwindling atmosphere.

We've all got our ideas why. With success has come a lot of new supporters, or one-off visitors, who don't know what Fratton can be like. And perhaps we're at our best when our backs are against the wall. I know the recent goal drought hasn't helped maters, but the crowd were pretty flat in the first half against Reading, even though we winning.

If we're going to kick on and build from the events of recent days and push up the league to bring European football to Fratton then the supporters - Pompey's famed 12th Man - are going to have to play their part. It only takes a few more people to get singing and clapping to get others joining in. It's infectious once it gets going.

So here's my idea. We develop a five point 'Pompey Pledge'.

The five things we promise to do when we attend games to bring the atmosphere back.

I'm not sure what they are yet, but I'm sure you'll all have ideas. Members who go to away games regularly, where we always out-sing the home support, must know what it is we do to make so much noise (apart from score goals, of course!) For a start we should pledge to always ring out the Pompey Chimes when we get a corner, free kick, etc.

Once we've got our five pledges (five because that will be easy to remember and tell other people about) we promote it through this site. We also tell other Pompey fan sites, get the Portsmouth News to print it, tell the sports pages of other papers. We build up a bit of a buzz about it.

The aim of this would be to:

1) Remind every supporter who goes to Fratton that they have a part to play in re-creating the Fortress.
2) It gets the fans talking and thinking about what we can do to get the atmosphere back.
3) Raise the expectations of the one-off visitors of what they should expect at Fratton.
4) It will also be a great way of further promoting the profile of this great website.

So, let's get started. Tell us what your five Pompey Pledges would be.

Post them below, or e-mail them to Rug or me. I'll collect them up and report back in a few days time.

Your club needs you. Let's make Fratton a Fortress again, in time for European football next season.

Play Up Pompey!

Written by NorthStandDan.

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Writer: pompeyrug Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday January 14 2008

Time: 12:14PM

Your Comments

this is a quality read mate - and i really do like the idea, so i will hold this art the top of this site for a few day - say until wednesday night, thursday morning - then send you all its findings, as well as any emails i might get... it would be interesting to see what people say and how far we really could take this, crackin' idea - so have your say fellas...
pompeyrug
yeah its great! & what a great time to try & get the feeling of the fortress back straight after Harry has comited himself to the club!! plenty to cheer about!!
CharlieChimes
so fellas, lets get these pledges going... im still thinking of some, but i will get there :-)
pompeyrug
Im in...
Ridgey
We need to sing the names of more of the players. Even if its a really boring, predictable chant, 'there's only one . . .' They appreciate it. And we need to crowd to not rely as much on John Westwood to get it all going. He has a part to play, of course he does, but often you can tell when he's turned up because the volume goes up for a short while.
tracyc
Sounds like a great idea to get the atmosphere back!! Not quite sure how far to take it though. Obviously don't want the ridiculous efforts some clubs go to such as playing silly music when goals are scored etc. but some sort of pattern or structure to the chants may help promote a bigger, better noise like we're all used to at Fratton. Perhaps.... Corners - Chant Blue Army, Blue Army Player has a decent chance on goal - Chant his name More importantly player screws up or makes a mistake lets do what we do best and give hime some support or the team so chant of Play up Pompey?? Brief idea but you can see what I'm getting at, if everyone at the ground knows what they are expected to sing and at what point/occasions then surely we should see more people getting involved?! P-U-P
scolari1984
recent survey by 118 - apearond on the vital chelsea site, ranked us as THIRTENTH! - although chelsea were 6th, and liverpool and man u were 4th and 3rd last...so it could have been a load of rubish...but still...
pompeycarpet
we need more chants for players. even prolific players like sulley muntari, distin, glen johnson etc dont have chants. and the niko niko niko one has only just started, and uuu uuu uuutaka didnt really catch on, iv only heard it sung at two games. when a player doesnt do well, we dont need to get on their back, we need to encourage them. its always been something that i like about us is that we never seemed to get on our players shoulders, but now we seem to be like other teams where we wont sing until we're winning, because we're turning up every week to sign. real fans support their team through thick and thin, so lets get behind the boys
jbaker
oh, sorry, that was 13th best support in the country
pompeycarpet
Good read Dan, I have said about the lack of atmosphere this year (and some completely disagree!) But, i still think the crowd always start, but need the players to give us something back then the atmosphere doesnt stop! like the idea tho.
pompey4me
We'e never done the players name singing stuff - I'm sure we could make up some great chants.
Et_tu_Pompeii
Even "Play up Mendes, Mendes play up" would be ok, wouldn't it?
Et_tu_Pompeii
My favourite has always been Aldershots 'anti-Reading' chant - to the tune of 'She'll be coming round the mountain': If you want to go to heaven when you die, if you want to go to heaven when you die, you must wear a blue and white bonnet with **** off Reading on it, if you want to go to heaven when you die. Always makes me laugh, that one - maybe we could adapt it?
Et_tu_Pompeii
This colour stuffs cool, eh?
Et_tu_Pompeii
Wonder if I've caught UKTony up yet?
Et_tu_Pompeii
You computer geeks! lol, only joking, how do you do that?
pompey4me
I've always liked 'Play Up Pompey', we could do that more . . .
Et_tu_Pompeii
It's HTML
Et_tu_Pompeii
Thats double dutch!
pompey4me
It's complicated but bracketed instructions allow you to define text size, colour etc. From Wikipedia: HTML, an initialism of Hypertext Markup Language, is the predominant markup language for web pages. It provides a means to describe the structure of text-based information in a document by denoting certain text as headings, paragraphs, lists, and so on and to supplement that text with interactive forms, embedded images, and other objects. So this: Play up Pompey
is written like this: [font style="color: rgb(146, 51, 151);" size="5"][span style="font-family: Arial;"[Play up Pompey]/span] [br][/font] except that the square brackets are 'greater thans and less thans' < and >
Et_tu_Pompeii
I'm not sur that helps, sorry
Et_tu_Pompeii
when did they ever have fortress fratton back in the 1800'ssssssssssss Nah just joking at least you play prem footie
ozanne park rangers
fellas whilst i like these colours and so on - weve gone off the point, we need some pledges... colours are ok, but can we keep the letters regular size please fellas...
pompeyrug
I like the idea of having a few more chants for our players. Its common that fans nick other fans chants and adapt them so why not go for:

Chim Chimminey, Chim Chimmminey, Chim Chim Cheroo
Who needs Shevchenko when weve got Kanu!

When he scores or

Muntari.......whoooah whayo
Muntari.......whoooah whayo
He came from Italy
To play for PFC
Muntari.......whoooah whayo
sneakay
im not much of a 'singer' at football matches, i always feel 'self-concious' which is stupid given thousands of others are doing the same but i think 1 pledge that i would like to make for sure is that instead of just saying 'im gonna get more involved with the singing today, not just the clapping part' i think i will honestly pledge to sing more again - forget the self-concious thoughts and join in...
pompeyrug
We've lost the excitement due to the expectation. Standing in the Fratton End, 10 feet from Westwood, not out of choice, I, we, do make a lot of noise & sing & chant but it ain't happening around the rest of the ground. Not scoring let alone not winning doesn't help & no doubt when we do start doing both the atmosphere will return. Nice colours chaps, not sure about the pink though.
storagematt
Pledge #1 - Take the roof off the Milton End!! Since it went on those on the North Terrace - Milton End cannot make themselves heard above the visitors and most appear to have given up. Not me though.
eastneydave
nor me...well, i cant say i really started...but i did in the 4 games i went last season! oh, and to make myself feel important, i think i will write bigger and in blue to show my true devotian...cool isnt it et_tu! in fac, one might say great!
pompeycarpet
Get rid of the stuffed shirt and old fuddy duddy approach. Take a leaf out of the American NFL books and get Cheer Squads, Banners, Loud music, mascots to rev the crowd up and fireworks. Then if the game is boring (as it has been lately) there will be something to cheer up the crowd. Look at the crowds that go to the NFL and the American Wrestling and the both use the same approach. Who is going to complain about a dozen cheerleaders dancing around? Well maybe a wife or two so perhaps we should include a couple of beefy male cheerleaders. Brighten up the stadiums. Everyone I see has drap colours and advertising boards that look like they were made by Noah when he made the Ark. Even the new stadiums that are state of the art have a lack of imagination once you are inside. There is no need to go as far as the stadium outside Dubai with gold seating and personalised TVS but a bit more flair would help as would a decent P A system. Also someone with knowledge of acoustics could advise on realatively in expensive ways of boosting the atmosphere. Stop blaming the Milton Rd roof and other things, they may have a minor effect it is the mindset and outdated approach that need attending to
frattonaussie
Also a better climate could help.
frattonaussie
I'm sure someone could do something about the acoustics under the Milton End roof over the away fans. I'm not an expert, but I'm sure there's something could be put under the roof to absorb the away fans noise. Cos I don't think taking the roof away is realistic (although desirable). Take your point about the cheerleaders, but its not very traditional British football - we don't really do razzamatazz.
tracyc
carpet - and others as said i dont particularly mind the colours being used but can we keep the text the regular size please fellas... some good ideas coming forward here, i will keep this up top until tomorrow i think - so keep having your say...
pompeyrug
tracy I was joking about taking away the roof but baffling the sound would be great. The problem is to fit with the necessary planning contraints the roof is low to prevent blocking daylight form the houses in Alverstone Road.
eastneydave
I agree with Storage the Fratton End is making as much noise as always, and although this 'seemed' to be a lot reliant of Westwood the last couple of home games have not been so. But I do agree we need to engage the whole ground and Northstandan's five point pledge is a great idea ... As we've said if we poeple know what is expected of them they will do it... So what are our Five Simple things... that everbody can join in to...
Chix
...... I d say we need to keep it simple and pick on five situations that happen during a game and then choose a song/chant for each situation.. so for starters my nominations for the five situations are ... a) Team come on to pitch, b) Kick-off at start of game c) Kick-off start of secind half d) we get a corner or free kick in good position e) We score.. f) they score... g) end of game... h) We use a sub... All those are event that every body can recognise.. now all we need to do is pick five and fit a 'simple' (everybody can learn it or knows it alread) chant around each occassion... back to you fellas...
Chix
rug - sorry, wont happen again ;-)
pompeycarpet
if we wnat to imporiv the atmosphere, then we will need to start with some simpler things. new songs will be difficult to start, and unlikely to catch on, whilst just simply expecting everyone else to sing more is just not going t happen...welll, not imediatly anyway. The most important theng though, is to lower expectations again - we started so well, and kept playing well away, so when we didnt score at home, people felt disopointed. i know that we should support through thick of thin - but when all the thick is away from home, we can be understandably dissapointed! and bringing in cheer leaders i think would spoil the atmosphere - as the best atmospheres are just brought on spontaneusly, and should not be forced.
pompeycarpet
don't worry about those surveys Pompey faithful. You are the best away support at WHL every single season. Honest.
WhiteHartSpur
pledge#1. sing sing sing. Thanks WHS, you lot were pretty vocal this year too.
pompey4me
pledge#2. If they are in a Pompey shirt, encourage them (even on bad days)
Chix
Just dont know whats gone wrong at fratton park of late. It use to be one of the most hardest grounds to come and get a result but all of a sudden it's gone. Once you get a win i think it will come back.
will it ever happen
 

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