WORK with CLUB Not Against It Postpone The March

Spot on, now the board/owners have started talking let's give them some more time, but we are already half way through january so how much patience do we show. If the owners walk away then that could be the end. Better the devil you know sometimes!!

Well, My personal view is that we should wait and see what they do in the rest of this month. If after the transfer window closes we're no better off/haven't signed anyone/still have an embargo, then we should go effin' mental at them. For now, we should give them the chance to show us if these are all just words, or if there's something behind them.

People certainly want open and honest answers. Unfortunately, the latest set of ramblings from the people who run the club don't meet that standard do they? For a start, lets look at this £40m claim. Jacob admitted its made up of loans from other people and the money WE put into the club. He is claiming the credit for "generating" money I have spent in the club shop. Now Al Faraj has yet another way of counting up this £40m. Jacob said today Ali Al Faraj has always been open and up front with people - this is a man who some people arent even sure exists? So open and up front he hasn't left Saudi Arabia. So open and honest he gave an interview, then denied having given it and then had to back down before again claiming he hadn't given it. Now Ahmed is claiming that interview was a misunderstanding. paragraphs after paragraph of quotes which said they were here to do a quick refinance and flog for a profit, leaving us with the debts and he says this was a misunderstanding? You know when they backed down from their claims the interview is a fake? When the paper played them the tape. Everything they have said is spin and bull. When you look at the club the wages keep being paid late, the ban is still in place, we are facing a winding up petition, we have a much convicted fraudster running the finances. I am amazed that anyone is prepared to accept some slippery quotes which fall apart under scrutiny as a reason to cancel the protest. Sorry guys, these guys lied about what they were to get into the club. Where is the "backing that goes all the way up in Saudi Arabia"? Where is the next level we wouldn't quite believe? It turns out that at the time they were spinning this stuff through Storrie they actually meant someone was going to loan the club £35m. Yeah, those are the riches of the Saudi princes alright.

Have to admit balloo it's that jury service dilemma again. Having read the piece at the top, you get a sense of; well ok then I won't protest. Then read your reply and look at those facts and you think, Hell why not; we've nothing to lose! Guess it's up to each and everyone of us to make our own minds up.

But if we protest now & the owners walk away the club is doomed. No one will buy the club & be in a position for us to sign players. Our only chance is for the current regime to produce a miracle in the next day or so. Give them a chance as after February 1st we are doomed anyhow & we can still protest.

Agree with you Ihatemidweektvgames. I think its the wrong time to be protesting, however i also like fatbloke proposal to wait and see if the embargo gets lifted as that should speak volumes.

As for setting a date with for meeting the PVA?? The PVA are not the face of Pompey fans - they threw that away with their ill-timed message that they created themselves. If there is to be a fans forum it should be open to all and tickets allocated by ballot. Not for unelected PVA bods.

There are always 2 sides to every story, and as much as these new owners repel me, to say lets work together is stretching things a bit far. Seeing as they have said or done nothing but break promises and renage on deals so far, it seem to me that we are the only one's doing all the running in this relationship. Ali hasn't pumped money into the Club he's borrowed it, and thats a sleeping dog that's going to wake up soon. As for driving them out and selling the Club again, I am not sure thats as bad as it sounds because the debt compared to other clubs is quite small i.e West Ham, £50m being ploughed in, and still £50m debt even after that. PL Clubs are still attracting buyers so don't write off getting rid of these twossers, and no-one else showing up. I think although Jacob's has said a few things lately his credibility was shot away ages ago, so I take what he says with a pinch of salt. If the players/staff don't get paid again this month, which Jacobs has said "won't happen again" then I don't think we have any choice but to protest, as it shows how much contempt they have for us and thier staff.

protest on untill transfer ban lifted !! if ohara goes to wolves or another rival protest even more...

OK, Rug this was never intended to work the opposite in anyway, to unite or divide. I am 100% in agreement that everyone should be doing what they want to do, as that is freedom of speach. My concern and therfore the article is, that the NEWS are driving this now, and all i see is Anti this that and the other on the pages of the paper, with no one standing up and saying "Hang on". I dont think Saturday will be a freedom of speach or choice, i think its going to be show of arms by the News. 7 members of my family will be at the match Saturday, some will protest, some will not, it does not make either side right or wrong, but i personally think its wrong to be driven by the media as we appear to have lost vision of what the protest was for or about. Answers right? And as you have said on a previous article somewhere, Damned if they do... Damned if they dont.... For me, its doomed if we do, and maybe doomed if we dont, but with no one else half intersted in the club i think we have to give them a chance.

Oh and according to ESPN.... O'Hara can only play for Spurs or Pompey, having kicked a ball for both this season already. Nugent can only be sold or leant to Burnley as he also has kicked a ball for Both. Prince, and Brown and Smith are also tied. So before anyone reads too deep into the Rags who keep touting our loanees or players at other clubs, they have their facts wrong. The Same media thats organinsing this protest? who seem to think they are alwways right... right?

This is a difficult one. I do understand the emotion behind wanting to protest, but I am feeling more and more unsure about the wisdom behind it as time goes on. One thing is for sure, the chanting and protests at recent games have got the owner's attention. They have got Jacobs talking to us. He may not be telling the truth (the players are all happy) but he is talking. But what is the reaction to that - is it we've got their attention, so we can wait and see now, or is it, we've got their attention, so lets keep going? I certainly think if the transfer embargo is lifted, the march should not happen. If not, then perhaps it should, but please please please let it not be racist or abusive and have a clear message of what it is trying to achieve. Please let people be sober and the chanting media and family friendly. And nobody is wimping out of protecting our great football club, people just have different opinions on what is the best thing to do. And some are just very uncertain.

Well said Bluebell and Mike the clarity of your reporting and vision is to be applauded. We now are slowly learning that the so called £40 million investment included the ice cream takings. Which is typical of the second rate spin eminating from the club at this time.

I think the willingness to label other loyal Pompey fans Scummers and pathetic just because they don't agree with the march speaks volumes about the mentality of some of the people involved in this protest. Surely our only chance of getting out of this mess is to stay united and get behind the team as we have always done? Still, what do I know? I've only been going to Fratton Park for 40 years so I am clearly only a JCL!

P.S can somebody explain to me what the fascination of people like Vettriano is in finding out "What he XXXX is going on"? Fans have no right to hear the personal financial workings of those investing in the club or even the clubs finances. They could go and find the published accounts though if they would like to do so but I doubt they would bother. It's much less effort and much more fun to feel a bit glum about things with other like "minded" (or not) individuals. Also, what does it matter anyway.. there are some serious financial problems... the extent of which are probably incomprehensible to the reactionary morons. What do they want to hear????? Tell me please somebody.

I too trust the motives of the marchers but I can't see what good it's going to do. Reminds me of the paedophile marches in Paulsgrove - all bluff and bluster, no result

They have had there chance, they are just stalling and most of this site belive them, they have been wrong again and again, the tranfer embargo is still in place, why is paying back our debts so complicated, we are running out of time fast, we should have new players in place for the birmingham game but again nothing its a joke.. Therefore we must stand up and voice there opinion and unless everyone is on board it will fall flat again. Cant believe you would give them more time when they have been screwing with are club for long enough. Lets face it they cant even pay the staff on time, there is no excuse for that. March on. We should be united in this march, not debating about it. This 69 percent figure is utter rubbish, especially as the same people have voted birmingham to win. Are these pompey fans? or is the voting system up the shoot!!! I personally think we will beat birmingham they are nothing special and Avram is a better manager. Keep the faith.

pompeyrug, you make valid points too. But i really do think pompey fans have had enough. Where you hear the statements from the club, that the embargo will be lifted and that the owner has put in 30 million, where did that money get spent and that they are getting upset because the pompey fans are starting to voice there opinion and they dont know why they are bothering with pompey, there is a hell of alot of un accounted money in my view at the club. It will be a peacefull march and hopefully not a drunken one, but we need thousands rather than hundreds, this way it will be all over the papers and on sky sports etc and maybe then something will be done. It may even lead to a them finding some new investors who have some money. "we will one of the only clubs in the world to have no debts to banks". But we will have huge debts to business men, with ridiculous rates of interest. Balram Chainrai (oh and if we fail to pay him back then he will probably own Fratton Park) There is a rumour also that pompey have not got the extra 3m to clear the debts of 10m (7m sky monies) which is why the premier league are taking more time to decide whether to lift the transfer embargo. I find this unbelievable, they have no money what so ever to take us forward. The guy wants to run the club using other peoples money, rather than his own. We should have another poll will the transfer embargo be lifted by the end of the transfer deadline. I dont know why these arabs bought the club. God help us for the rest of the season.

i am losing the will to live now evildwarf, i am fed up with everything now and all i want to do is talk about the football again, which is rarely happening now! i spend a fortune following us around all over the show, and whilst it is the whole thing - with the football often secondary anyway to the day out with my mates - the football side of things, which should be the main thing is something that i am starting to detest, i am deteting football in general these days, and sometimes think 'what is the point' anymore if i am not getting the enjoyment - i clearly want us to win but winning or 'being good' makes no difference to me, even with the troubles in the late 90s i never felt like i do now, i am tired with the whole thing now, and do not know what is what anymore - i think when you use 'rumour', this sums up so much, none of us really know what is what only what rumour tells us and this is making things even worse...