Vital Football

Manager Merry-go-round

Manager Merry-go-round
So much has been said about foreign investors owning premiership clubs over the past few years - a discussion recently that was re-sparked by the sale of Man City - about how Jonny foreigner is only interested in money, expects instant success, and doesn't care about the fans.

However, is this confined solely to foreign owners? And is it even true?

In short, the answer is that all chairmen want to bring success to there clubs. And also, all chairmen want to be able to earn money from their investments - certainly not loose money! So is it really unreasonable that ticket prices are going up, and that more and more, games are being moved to put them on the TV? However the answer to the first question is a resounding no. All chairmen - no matter what there nationality, or how much they support there club, will still not want to loose millions of pounds - Mike Ashley is the obvious example. Rather than taking steps to avoid Newcastle's "king" leaving, he limited Keegan in the transfer window, placed restrictions on him, and then sold Miller.

At Pompey, we are lucky. Yes, our owner is foreign. However he does let Harry do what he likes with the squad, without interfering - Harry summed this up very well when talking about the West Ham vacancy saying "I have one big advantage over a lot of Premier League bosses these days: I've got an owner who lets the manager manage." He (Gaydamak) has done wonders to make Pompey far more professional - although as this summer proved; we still have a long way to go in that respect! Yes, our first ever appearance in the UEFA cup may have been moved to 6:00 to allow for a TV audience, and more money, but Peter Storrie makes a good point, the UEFA cup is not a bag of money, and travelling out to Portugal is not
free, and must be funded somehow.

The fact that over the summer our apparent net spend was only 300 000 - which does not take into account tax, of which there will be a great deal (who will forget the Kaboul debate, when it turned out we may have to miss out on him, because we could not afford the 1.2million tax!) - has been a cause for concern for many people, thinking that Sascha is not providing what he promised, however we can not expect miracles (or millions) from a man who is not made of money.

So when we look at the premiership in the future, and gasp at the number of foreign owners (8), and complain that it is them forcing the manager merry-go-round into full swing, it is probably better to consider the fact that who-ever the owners of top premiership teams are, they all want to be successful. And just because they are English, it doesn't mean they won't want to stick their hand in the team selection.

Written by pompeycarpet.

The views within this article are the views of the individual who wrote and submitted this piece, sometimes solely theirs. They are not necessarily shared by the Vital Pompey Site Journalists.

Join the Vital Pompey Debate

Date:Friday September 5 2008
Time: 8:07AM


A good point and well made Carpet.. I'll be back after work to comment in more detail...must dash !
05/09/2008 08:18:00
Nice article Carpet, a really eye opening read.
05/09/2008 08:36:00
If I could afford my very own football team, could I resist tinkering about with players? Could I sit and watch my Manager buying players that they eventually don't use cos they are c--p and continue to use my money to pay their wages? Could I resist getting involved in negotiations when the money at stake is mine? No, I don't think I could - could you? I think the very fact that we all have long heated discussions about formations, who to play where, what tactics to use, who to buy and how much are they worth, means that my question doesn't really need to be answered.........
05/09/2008 09:08:00
Good article Carpet. It can certainly be argued that if a business or wealthy individual invests in/buys a club then it is their preogative to run that club as they see fit, whether we like it or not. There's certainly evidence this week that the role of the manager is changing to that of a continental coach. There was a time when a manager was allowed to use his skills in blending together a team and a playing style. Often he would build a team that was a reflection of his character/personality; for example... Mercer, Allison, Shankly, Busby, Revie, Mee, Clough, Greenwood, Mackay, Nicholson, Paisley, Dalglish, Graham, Keegan Fergusson, Sexton, Venables and, more recently perhaps, despite the money ast his disposal, Mourinho. I reckon Harry and Martin O' Neil are the closest to that old style of manager in top flight football - the old style managers are still prevalentl in the Championship and below, where budgetary constraints call upon them to use every ounce of their managerial savvy. In the past, a wealthy benefactor would go and get the best manager he could and then say "build me a team" - now the benefactors go and get the players too and say "Heaven help you if you don't win the title/finish top four etc". Actually, having just read that list of great managers from the past, I realise how very much times have changed. I remember one journalist saying, when Sunderland were bottom under Mick McCarthy and Chelsea were flying high with Jose, that swap the managers round and Sunderland would still be bottom and Chelsea still top. OK, money doesn't make a TEAM, but, in today's football it is seemingly more important than the the people-management skills and tactical prowess of the manager. That's what they call progress I guess.
05/09/2008 10:28:00
Top stuff carpet. I agree with the comments above too especially Gandor's questions about could you avoid getting involved if you had invested heavily? The answer is no but if you appoint a manager to manage then he MUST be allowed to however difficult it will make life. The demand for sucess though is too great.
05/09/2008 13:23:00
I feel the question is, is the person buying a football club because he wants to make money or because he loves football and thinks, wot a gas! Unfortunately, since I became interested in football I've heard massive sums being spent, but not massive sums being made, and therein lies the problem. I think perhaps, it is an expensive hobby for a lot of Owners and possibly it is not as difficult as it once was to build a team - if you have a lot of money. So it makes sense that the owners do the nice bits (choosing players etc) and the managers put in the donkey work ie: the coaching. I don't say it is right, but it must be an irrestistable way of carrying on. What amazes me is that there is always another Manager to step in and take over after the last one has been treated like pooh!
05/09/2008 17:38:00
Successful teams in England are run by managers that manage. Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton, Villa & even us, thankfully, have mangers that in the best part say who is coming & going. Yes owners have to balance the books but what goes on at european clubs & has been happening at West Ham & Newcastle is awful. How can Curbs or KK be expected to be successful under those conditions.We had a taster a few years ago & we all know what disasters that led to.
05/09/2008 19:51:00
For me, it's somewhat ironic that this should happen with Keegan and Curbishley at the same time. Curbishley is a hands-on manager, and a damn good one. He's the kind of manager that wants control over players coming and going, and should have it, because he makes good use of it. Employing someone like him makes no sense at all if you don't plan to let him have control over tactics, formations, transfers ( within limits, obviously ) and all that. Keegan, on the other hand, may want control over all those things, but he probably shouldn't have it. Put simply ( and none too flatteringly ) he just isn't very good at this stuff. If he was in American Football management, he would be an offensive coordinator. We don't really have quite that equivalent in our football, but I do think he'd be a bloody good coach, if he could just accept that he isn't cut out to be a manager. If Keegan went to Liverpool, for example, where they've got a wealth of expensive attacking talent and can't put it together, he could turn them into a fantastic attacking team. I just find it odd that - with football going this way at a lot of clubs - Keegan can't see that he perfectly suits this role. Albeit, perhaps Newcastle is not the club for him to have done it at.
05/09/2008 21:12:00
The trouble is, because they throw so much money at it, the owners expect instant success, and won't give managers time to build or to achieve anything. I have no sympathy with Newcastle fans going through hell right now, after they put us through the same thing last January. But I would like to know why Mike Ashley is allowed to flout the law that says you can't drink beer in sight of the pitch.
06/09/2008 12:17:00
Page 1/1
  1. 1

Login to post a comment

Recent Portsmouth Articles

Big Ben returns!

There's no doubting how important Davies is to us, we most definitely missed the former Sheffield United man against Orient but Cook's confirmed he'll start against Bristol Rovers.

Winning over the fans

Cook feels he still has to 'win over a proportion' of the fans at Pompey?

Tubbs a way he has a point

5-goals in a combined total of 8-matches isn't a bad return is it so having made his move to Eastleigh this week I get Tubbs' point at his surprise Cook wasn't selecting him.

Pompey Predictions League - update no.28

The Pompey predictions league is very much part of this site now! This continued with a defeat to Orient last Saturday.

Archived Vital Pompey Articles

Vital Pompey articles from

Site Journalists


Current Poll (see more polls)

Orient MotM
Suggested By: VitalPompey
Sub - Evans2%
Sub - McGurk0%
Sub - Chaplin5%
ScoopDragon Publishing Entire League Network of Sites

League Table

# Team P W D L Pts. GD
1 Northampton 28 19 4 5 61 20
2 Plymouth 29 17 5 7 56 17
3 Oxford 28 14 10 4 52 19
4 Mansfield 31 13 9 9 48 9
5 Bristol Rovers 29 14 5 10 47 10
6 Wycombe 29 13 7 9 46 6
7 Leyton Orient 30 12 10 8 46 5
8 Portsmouth 28 11 12 5 45 20
9 Accrington 26 13 6 7 45 12
10 Cambridge 30 12 8 10 44 3
11 Wimbledon 28 11 9 8 42 7
12 Carlisle 26 11 9 6 42 5
13 Exeter 28 11 7 10 40 -1
14 Luton 30 10 8 12 38 1
15 Crawley 30 11 4 15 37 -13
16 Morecambe 30 10 6 14 36 -3
17 Notts County 27 10 6 11 36 -6
18 Barnet 28 9 6 13 33 -8
19 Stevenage 31 7 10 14 31 -14
20 Newport 28 6 9 13 27 -11
21 Yeovil 29 5 9 15 24 -14
22 Hartlepool 26 7 3 16 24 -19
23 Dag & Red 29 4 8 17 20 -22
24 York 28 4 8 16 20 -23
Latest F1 News
Latest Vital Boxing News

Portsmouth Fixtures (view all)

Feb 13 2016 3:00PM : Bristol Rovers (H)
Sky Bet League Two
Feb 20 2016 3:00PM : Yeovil Town (a)
Sky Bet League Two
Feb 23 2016 7:45PM : Barnet (a)
Sky Bet League Two
Feb 27 2016 3:00PM : Cambridge United (H)
Sky Bet League Two
Mar 1 2016 7:45PM : Exeter City (a)
Sky Bet League Two
Mar 5 2016 3:00PM : Stevenage (a)
Sky Bet League Two

Recent Portsmouth Results (view all)

Vital Members League Table