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Saints Stadium Closure!!!



According to this report from the BBC three of the four corners will be closed. This will affect around 700 season ticket holders.

This, along with cuts to subsidised bus travel and match-day staffing could save them up to £250,000.

Chairman Michael Wilde told their website. "We deeply regret having to take these measures.

"But unfortunately they have been forced upon us by the financial situation we find ourselves in.

"We now have to make some unpleasant and unpalatable decisions to get the finances back on track."

These areas will be reopened for games where 'huge crowds' are expected. So not very often then!

Should we feel sorry for our neighbours down the road or laugh our pants off?

Written by storagematt.

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Date:Saturday June 14 2008

Time: 11:36AM

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i genuinly feel sorry for them.
pompeycarpet
yea i kind of agree its pretty harsh, bt lets face all the grief we've bin given in the past they kinda deserve some packback =)
pompeym@
we have had hard times over the years, did they care? nope...
do i care that they are now having hard times? in many ways i shouldnt, the fact they went down and struggled doesnt concern me but i do feel for their 'genuine fans' that will be affected by this...
pompeyrug
Laugh your pants off. The utter 5hit we took from them over 30+ years whilst we jumped from one cisis to another. Whilst we played Div 3 & 4 football. Hate them with passion but always love Pompey more.
storagematt
Best news I've heard all week - Do I feel for them ? ..... Nope I think it's really funny .... Bring on Aldershot as Hampshires no2 club...
Chix
I think it may be a little unwise to gloat when Pompey Still had a lower average attendance than Saints did last year and even without the corners the capacity is larger than Fratton!
Jesus_02
so they will open the corners if they draw the cup winners then thats for sure
pompeyyong
hahahahahahaha!! Love it.
pompey4me
my my my ..ive written about how they used to throw penny's to us in th 70's and as rug did they care about us as their talented manager( Laurie the Mac enema..sorry enemy- either will do) mixed old established stars with fresh young talent and took them to cup finals, as we fought relegation battles and went from one financial crisis to another, having to play their old cast off players....hmm what goes around comes around. Therefore I will feel sorry for them as it could all turnaround again one day
plymouth graham
nah fuqem, lets av a giggle
russellm
lets all av a giggle, lets all ava giggle la la la la laaah, la la la laah, lets all ava giggle etc etc etc
russellm
and the second verse is... lets take their man Dyer, lets take their man Dyer, la la la laah, la la la laaah
russellm
The Stains fans seem to forget that for years their Premier League ground had a capacity of only 15,210!! When we are at Wembley in the Community shiled they will be 'dreaming' of a Carling Cup tie at Exeter City!! How the mighty have fallen.
eastneydave
I think it is a real shame..........nah only kidding, we have taken a load of **** from them over the years, as has been pointed out, so reep what you sew boys. Just keep turning out the young stars and let us nick them off you. Got to be fair on one thing with em though, their youth set up is damn good and that is something we really do need to get a grip with and hopefully that is now happening.
blarmy
"I think it may be a little unwise to gloat when Pompey Still had a lower average attendance than Saints did last year and even without the corners the capacity is larger than Fratton! Jesus_02." Yep ... Fair comment Jesus.. I'd all forgotten it's the size of the ground that gains team points in the league not the results of games
Chix
But I reckon the size of the ground does have an effect cos when they were at the Dell (which was the size of a mouse's armpit) the opponents had to get over half the players suffering from claustrophobia. Actually I had the misfortune to visit So'ton on Wednesday and as the train snaked past St Mary's I took to thinking about how on earth they ever thought they'd fill such a stonker stadium when it's far from being a football city like Portsmouth or Newcastle. Again, going on a bus past Archers Road where the Dell and the Hampshire country ground were, now replaced with Barratt homes, you get a sense of how they have taken the sport out of the heart of the city and built these overhuge places and struggle to fill them. Hope we don't get it wrong with new stadium fantasies. Heard old Peter Shilton talking about how a storm took the roof off the Victoria ground in Stoke in the seventies and they had to sell their best players to mend it, descended into the second division and of course they've only just come back again.
hammersmithblue
my opinion clearly outweighed here... possibly as i have only know southampton to be better than pompey for a few years, before thew started going into decline. Administration is not something i would wish on any club, being froced into cost cutting measures becuase of financial trouble is the same. I would much rather beat them on the pitch than beat them becuase of our (very very VERY) good chairman.
pompeycarpet
ah yes carps, but as a self confessed recent Pompey convert, you havn't had to put up with the 'orrible scum supporters gloating over us for my entire lifetime! Therefore I say hehehehehehehe
pompey4me
I'm going to gloat for a while if I may, especially as someone pointed out that on Facebook the scum are trying to break away from what is known as the Portsmouth district on their National breakdown
paultsmouth
A part of me feels it is wrong to gloat over their predicament. I remember the laughing, the snidey comments,The "we're bigger than you'll ever be" year after year. The I couldn't give a ship attitude they had towards us. And yet Pity is all i can feel toward them, they should have kept their mouths shut and opinions to themselves. I have to admit; regardless who it is I hate to see another club drifting towards oblivion.
pentonpompey
ho ho ho!!!! what excellent news!!!
CharlieChimes
Its funny isn't it, the only thing, and I mean only thing, they have to try to get back at us with is having a bigger stadium. And thats only because we haven't got our new one yet, which will be better than theirs. Give it up deckchair wearers. Premiership. World class players. England players. Oh- and the FA Cup as well!! You enjoy your half-closed bigger stadium! We'll enjoy the here and now, and the next few years. We'll enjoy whats happening to us, and we'll enjoy what's happening to them, too.
tracyc
personally i'm not bothered what they do. However i feel it's wrong that with so much money in the game smaller clubs have to struggle to exist. There are many clubs on the breadline whilst the rich just keep getting richer, the wealth needs to be shared around a bit more. Transfer tribunals for instance should favour the smaller selling clubs over the bigger buying ones. All to often a big club will take a small one to a tribunal just to get a cheaper transfer fee.
Steve C
Nice one tracyc. Too moral steve c. Football reflects life & business. nothings fair. To survive & achieve or suffer. We are achieving & the scummers are suffering.
storagematt
Apparently the fans have also appealed that the seats be turned around so they don't have to face the pitch!!!!!
dazza71
lol dazza!
pompey4me
Yeah, laugh while we can, while at the same time hoping it won't happen to us! Not that we will be at St Mary's (unless walking past it to Fratton park). I was actually born in St Mary's come to think of it. Not in a closed corner though. Don't they get in the way of the doctors and nurses? Or does the scum just get sluiced away.
holcomberogue
I actually had a soft spot for them as a teenager in Australia, being the closest top-flight team to Oz at the time. The weather on the south coast always looked better that oop North. Hence, when I saw Pompey's first Premier League game on telly, I was hooked!!! Perhaps, we should buy their stadium and move it.. like, with a really big crane.. to Portsmouth?? Save a fair bit of frigmarole, methinks!!
PortsMorsch
Well, regulars will know my view on the Saints 'rivalry' so I won't fuel this debate by going over old ground. What I will say is that that there for the grace of god (Harry?) goes Pompey. The fate of clubs is largely indiscriminate. It wasn’t so long ago that we suffered at the hands of questionable ownership, and surely had we not been an island we would already have our own super stadium and likely also at a time when income wouldn’t have supported it. It just so happens that Saints got a triple whammy given they were misfortunate enough to have what appears to be selfish owners and prolonged poor form on the pitch resulting in a league position that didn’t look attractive to serious financial investment. I don’t think Saints fans are any different from us and I certainly don’t wish financial hardship on any team especially one of the South’s leading teams. If Saints go bust then the ramifications for Pompey could be considerable. In this instance, I would not bet against some form of union between the two clubs, or an outright takeover. From a financial perspective, having a stadium somewhere along the M27 with a regular attendance north of 35,000 would surely be more attractive to a perspective owner than investing in a local stadium with doubts that it could regularly hit 25,000. Also, living near the M4, equally close to Pompey and Saints I can say without a doubt that Saints are far more popular here than Pompey. I was the sole Pompey fan in my office, with at least 10 Saints fans around me… (and ironically my office is in the shadow of the Madjeski stadium). My point being is that a combined team would have a true catchment area covering most of Hampshire and surrounding counties. As it is, opinions polarize towards Saints or Pompey, but remove these polarizations and combined the catchment will involve a much larger non polarized audience. Sure some old faithful fans will be lost in the transition but I wouldn’t expect that to amount to more than a couple of thousand at each club. Clearly I am not proposing we do an MK Dons, just pointing out that money is green not blue or red …
ChrisW
Brave words ChrisW,I expect this thread to have exploded by the time I get back from work! ;-)
pentonpompey
Very brave words indeed Chris, but I am afraid I do not agree with what you have put. Portsmouth and Southampton are two very different cities with very different people in them, even though they are so close together.

If the worse case (or best to some people) senario happened and the scummers went bust then they would have to start from scratch again. Selling off the stadium to make way for housing or offices would financially sort the team out and a new Scummers Fc would be born.

I can honestly say that I could never see the two teams forming as there would be too much hatred between the fans. Portsmouth may not have so many fans spread out through Hampshire, Berkshire and Surrey as Southampton but maybe that is because the people from Portsmouth prefer to stay there. It's a very strong community which is probably not a bad thing.
sneakay
To be honest, I dont really care.... It is nice to see them not doing well, but it was a lot more fun to laugh at their ineptitude at playing football rather than a financial crisis! We have fans that support us when we do well and when we do badly, that makes us strong, they do badly there fans try to support us and then they cant fill their stadium.... oh well!!!
Sachas_Brother
Are fans that switch from Southampton to Portsmouth even real fans?? Will they just not switch back if the fate twists the other way??
Sachas_Brother
Sneakay, I am not advocating such a move, more reasoning that a third party may well find this an attractive proposition. TBH, I don't see this rivalry being as bitter as many claim, sure it's knee deep on Portsea Island but it's not endemic. Moreover, I don't agree that Saints would necessarily start from scratch. That remains the decision for the owners of the assets if and when that happens and given almost all big money in business is made by asset manipulation (stripping or harmonisations) then for sure the new owners would be looking for the biggest bang for their bucks. You have to remember that by law administrators have to get as much money as possible to pay off creditors and if that means selling the crown jewels so to speak, then so be it. Again I am not advocating this, merely suggesting it as viable alternative, and worryingly, I am probably not alone.
ChrisW
As hard as it is to bite the lip, no one should want to see them get too clobbered. There's a saying out here which is " be even more gracious in victory than in defeat " and there have been very dark times around Fratton in the past. Besides, I'd rather we get a chance to clobber 'em on the pitch !
Toronto4Pompey
Chris, as you say without raking up too much of the past, a merger will simply just never happen. Who would go? not I. What would the team be called? Na, not a chance, makes me think of hitting the bottle already!
pompey4me
Simon, I see it more as an acquisition of a rival's customer base - after which the original product (eg Southampton) will be cancelled and the surviving entity (Pompey) sells more product to the acquired customers. There is plenty of precedent for it even amongst customers (fans) with huge affinity to the original brand/product. But either way, let's hope I am wrong.
ChrisW
It is a shame as it will ruin any atmosphere at the ground, and the poor devils who are having to relocate to a part of the ground that is in use must be really peed off.
Dean1
 

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