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The Questioning of the Nigerian Age



Anyway, an interesting story breaking, which concerns the age of our ex-player Yakubu & has some reflection on Kanu.

The Nigerian FA have written in complaint to the FA at comments made by Everton manager David Moyes towards Yakubu, and other Nigerian's in general regarding their ages, and maybe what they might really be?

"He's only 25, albeit a Nigerian 25, and so if that is his age he's still got a good few years ahead of him," Moyes told the Guardian newspaper.

Yakubu is not the only one who has had his age questioned over the years, as many other Nigerians including our own Kanu have too.

NFA spokesman Ademola Olajire countered Moyes' comments on the BBC

"His statement is insulting to the Nigerian nation and unbecoming of a Premier League manager"

"We don't take kindly to snide remarks about our players, or our nation and we have sent a strongly-worded complaint to the English FA.

"Seriously, we will go at any length to ensure he is brought to book to explain his comments."

Written by Storagematt.

The views within this article are the views of the individual who wrote and submitted this piece, sometimes solely theirs. They are not necessarily shared by the Vital Pompey Site Journalists.

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Writer: pompeyrug Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday February 24 2008

Time: 12:20PM

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kanu, as you rightly say matt he did change the game yesterday and for my money put in his best performance for a long time, arguably since his showing against blackburn in his 1st ever game for us... he showed just why i think he is best used from the bench.

on to the real matter in question - the nigeria age issue - its funny as Chix and i were again having this very conversation about kanu and his 'age' before the game... tbh im still finding it hard to believe that he is 'just' 31 or 32?

pompeyrug
Well Chix doesn't even know how old he is lol
eastneydave
Yakubu under David Moyes, looks five years younger than when he joined Everton!!! He has lost weight and looks 100% fitter.
007
there is something fishy going on...although its not exactly the place of someone in such a high profile position to suggest something like that, its probably more just a sence of humour failure from nigeria...
pompeycarpet
Maybe it's like cats & dogs. 1 year in our terms is 9 months in Nigeria. Kanu really 38 but is actually only 32. LOL
storagematt
plenty have suggested it before carps, and probably some more high profile thans moyes... you know what matt it wouldnt surprise me if kanu really was that old :-)
pompeyrug
true rug...probably just nigerea failing to have a sence of humour...
pompeycarpet
the way i see it, people that tend to be from nigeria and the surrounding countries just develop earlier and quicker, therefore wouldnt be able to perform to the same standards as a standard european of the same age. and moyes' exact words arent suggesting thats yakubu is older, just referring to the fact that he is ageing earlier because he is nigerian...perhaps. im not sure that made sense, but i dont think moyes meant to be rude, he was just suggesting that perhaps yakubu will age earlier, so thertefore wont be playing football at the highest level for as long.
jbaker
it's difficult to believe Kanu is only 2 or 3 years older than Benjani
ChrisW
Cw. Not when you compare the Zimbabwe calendar to the Nigerian.
storagematt
perhaps - what I do know is 10 years back i started my own credit card business and even then there were Nigerians trying to obtain credit cards by deception from Nigeria...
ChrisW
thats a cracker matt :-)
pompeyrug
jbaker - i dont know whether tats what myes was getting at, but i thin that that is what the nigerians thouht he was, and found it offensive that people from nigeria should ageat a different rteto europeans...
pompeycarpet
ah okay, thats just my opinion of the situation, i thought they took offense to the fact that he may have accused them of lying about their ages. but im probably wrong, i havent read too much into moyes comments, i apologise
jbaker
Age is irrelevant. It is how the player plays that counts. Bear in mind that all African towns and villages do not have computers, Town centres, officials etc to record a birth. It often relies on someones memory years after the event. Add to that that the parents may have died early which is a much more frequent happening than in the UK. It is then up to the child or a distant relative to say how old the child is and then that is recorded. Also the records in these countries frequently get lost or destroyed.My wife is Indonesian and when we went to get her birth certificate from the government it couldn't be found. She was asked how old she is and then that was recorded. She could have said anything. For all they knew she could have been Thai not Indonesian as they had no record of her but her word was accepted. So these things happen in many countries and it is not usually the players fault.
frattonaussie
i really didnt think of that, that is an amazing point frattonaussie, and that throws a whole new view onto the area, and sort of helps moyes. good job
jbaker
If Yak was 20 when he joined Pompey and Kanu is now 32 then I am most definately without a shadow of a doubt a year older than I was twelve months ago and at least 6 years younger than my older brother is today.. ... I think {~:)
Chix
Age, it is easy to forget that Stanley Matthews was still playing league football at 48 years of age when he last appeared at Fratton Park.
007
yep but that was his 'official age' for all we know kanu would not be too far off that, ok maybe 10 years... players play to an older age but you wouldnt get another case like stanley matthews playing until he was 48 - he wouldnt be able to do it these days...
pompeyrug
Rug, I would bet my pension that Stanlet Matthews at 48 years old could still dance past Hreidarsson.
007
A lot of people will interpret this as racist (which I assure you it isn't), but Nigerians have a reputation in Africa for being " sharks ", so I wouldn't put much stock in what the Nigerian FA has to say. If Yakubu and Martins are still in their 20's, the Pope is muslim and Gordon Brown a Hindu.
Toronto4Pompey
..how did that song go again " Age Ain't Nothin But A Number "...on a certified cheque that is !
Toronto4Pompey
Yes, Toronto that is racist. Its like saying all Americans and Italians are Mafia and all Muslims are terrorists.Although you claim your remark is non racist, it sounds about as racist as it could be and it is the first post I've seen on here that Rug should have removed.
frattonaussie
frattonaussie, i hadnt even seen the comment until i noticed yours... i really dont think Toronto4Pompey - who i think i know ok having seen on the site for several months, and having had plenty of emails from - was trying to be racist and didnt mean to imply 'all' with what he said, at least i would hope not as that wouldnt be condoned at all... the recent business in the forum where plenty of comments were removed and serious measures threatned against people shows how strongly against racist, homophobic and so on comments i, and vital fotoball are.
pompeyrug
Nope Fratoonaussie, I wasn't being racist (although no offence, but I had to chuckle at being accused of same by someone from downunder !). My fiancee is african-american and I have a lot of close friends out here who are originally from African countries (Cameroon and Cote d'Ivoire in particular). Nigerians have a reputation for sharp practices. I didn't invent it. Just ask anyone you come across who hails from any other African country. Cheers.
Toronto4Pompey
Please explain you comment "being accused of the same by someone from downunder". Some Nigerians do have a reputation fro sharp practices and so do some English and sme Aussies. Your comments paint everyone with the same brush. I do not apologise for my post and will go further and accuse you of being a racial bigot.
frattonaussie
You can accuse me of being a blue nosed gopher for all I care and I didn't ask you for an apology since your are as entitled to your opinion as the next person. I don't know you so the comment wasn't intended to be personal, I just found it ironic given that I'm engaged to a black woman and have a law practice of which about 30% of the caseload touches on discrimination. The fact is that Australia historically had a record on immigration from non-white countries which was on a par with apartheid South Africa (you may be too young to remember it, but I'm not). About 16 years back I distinctly remember standing at a rally in downtown Toronto attended by Nelson Mandela who was bashing the Australian government for that very issue. Again, nothing personal. I just think you need to think things out a bit more before you arbitrarily accuse people of bigotry. Also, I know many Americans who typify Canada as being full of beer swilling yahoos - AND THEY'RE NOT WRONG !!!!
Toronto4Pompey
ok frattonaussie, lets just chill out a bit here eh i dont think there was any need for the last comment - im not quite sure what you meant Toronto4Pompey with the comment that frattonaussie did pick up on but lets just let this issue go now eh? Toronto4Pompey isnt a racist, if he was i wouldnt have him on this site! you have both had your say - i personally just think youve both got the wrong idea of things, so lets nip this in the bud...
pompeyrug
you posted that comment as i was writting mine, youve explained some things, but as said hopefully this issue will now be left go...
pompeyrug
Alrgight Guv....but I'm not apologizing for referring to myself as a beer swilling yahoo, and that's final !
Toronto4Pompey
Just so there's no hard feelings since as I said, it was nothing personal: http://www.zmag.org/content/Race/pilger0127.cfm Rightly or wrongly, Australia has a well know reputation out here which is furthered by actors like present PM John Howard. It is a terrific thing that there are folks such as yourself to counter it so "good on ya ".
Toronto4Pompey
I've said my piece and I wouldn't apologize to the likes of Toronto who are not worth the bother.
frattonaussie
Class mate...real class.
Toronto4Pompey
 

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