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Anyone Else Feel Like This? (Submitted by Stmonkton52)
11 November 2013 14:51 Post ID: #163122
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This was an article suggestion to me from Stmonkton52 (they have written before), putting it up in the forum but will also go front page shortly too...

I'm not looking for sympathy but I'm really starting to feel the chill wind of reality and it ain't a pleasant place.

As I followed Saturday's game I began to realise just how long it will take us to get back to somewhere positive.

The bad news is we're out of the cup, we're just about holding on in the bottom tier of the league and we are usually about the next to last game on the television review of the league.

Some of us have been here before at the end of the 1970s and it took a mighty long time for the good times to arrive. If you look at the vast investment that teams at the top of the Championship are making and yet failing to get out of the division, I see no prospect of us getting back to the top tier.

All this makes me feel really, really downhearted.

I saw my first game at Fratton in 1959 and so spent almost a lifetime waiting for the great times we had a few years ago. I'm grateful we got those years and I am so pleased that we still have a club to follow. Does it hurt more because we had those times ?

I think it probably does.

I know we should be positive and I agree we are on the right track but the reality is that we will remain a small scale third tier club at best and it hurts !

Do others feel the same?

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11 November 2013 14:58 Post ID: #163127 - in reply to #163122
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I agree with this in some respect. Looking at it in a positive light, and learning from other clubs currently in the top-flight, success isn't impossible. We have the JPT to look forward to, with a possible trip back to Wembley Stadium! Granted, it isn't the FA Cup final, but a final nonetheless. These mini-successes may be overshadowed by the recent success in the past, but think of it as a light at the end of the tunnel. We've been dragged through hell and back, and to finally be able to say we are safe, financially, and most-likely will remain in the Football League next season, is something we can all be happy about.

Looking at teams like Swansea, and Hull City (Tigers), who haven't had billions of pounds pumped into them, but are still reasonably successful in England's top flight, shows how a club can rise from the ashes. Especially Swansea, rising from League Two, to Premier League in less than ten years, shows an awful lot can happen in a short space of time in football; as many Pompey fans will know!

As for the future, it's ours, the fans'. It's down to use to sing, shout and back the team 100%. Without us, they would be NO Pompey! Lets take each season, and each game as it comes, and you never know what could be around the corner!

In Pompey We Trust!
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11 November 2013 15:03 Post ID: #163131 - in reply to #163122
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Rug - Think the article is a fair one to stick on the front page albeit a little depressing .. I for one wont agree with the poster but can defo see where he is coming from on a few points .... my only query is will he log on to answer / respond to any comments made ... As you know I always think that is a good think to do


Am I (others) allowed to respond now ?
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11 November 2013 15:37 Post ID: #163144 - in reply to #163122
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Front pages articles always go up in the forum too, so this is going live shortly but wanted to kick off the forum thread first (ideally Stmonkton52 would have done it themselves but they generally only seem to suggest articles).

Hopefully they will comment this time and will be encouraged to do so front page when it goes live...


It is depressing to see where we are at times, then again it would be more so to see where we could have been. I am one of those that ISNT going to keep banging on about being happy to have a club (obviously I am, but think we have a right to have a moan and a groan etc) all the time tho.

I am too young to remember the old division four days, remember us being shite in the mid-late 90s when I first started being able to follow Pompey regularly tho and liken these days to those in some ways and with players starting to care like some of those did.

Without doubt it will take time to climb, 'if' we could get back to the cup finals and premier league I wouldnt be able to say no but it isnt something I long for in all honesty but would like to see us back to being a championship club, which is what I genuinely think we are and probably always have been.

Given time, patience and effort I think we will rise a little, but it WILL take time and I can understand how demoralising it could be I guess having seen the decline and witnessed a rise and how long that took and thinking how long again it could take?

Will it take 30-odd-years to get back to a level where we kind of think we belong?

Maybe, maybe not. So long as I am enjoying my football again tho I will be happy and have to say (a few games aside) I have rarely come away from Fratton this season having felt that disappointed by what I saw - that being said I am in no hurry to devote my time fully to following Pompey all over the country again, then again my own priorities have also changed over the years as has my financial situation.
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11 November 2013 15:46 Post ID: #163145 - in reply to #163122
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An article from Stmonkton52 looking at the reality of where we are and where we can go, and how long it might take - read on for more.

Click here to read the article

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11 November 2013 15:46 Post ID: #163146 - in reply to #163122
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Live front pages too now on the link above.
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11 November 2013 16:44 Post ID: #163153 - in reply to #163122
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My entry on the front page:

"I am too young to remember the old division four days" "would like to see us back to being a championship club, which is what I genuinely think we are and probably always have been."

By definition then Rug you are too young (and/or don't read your Pompey history books) to remember Pompey as a top flight club - 3 FA Cup finals, 1 FA Cup win, back-to-back top flight league winners.

Lack of investment in replacement players lead to a slow decline in Pompey fortunes. The fight to get out of div.4, and then div.3 were days to relish. Then stagnation until Mandaric came along and brought us back to where we belong - Premiership, another FA cup win, Europe.

Then the mighty crash due to a string of unscrupulous owners.

With due respect to the PST the outlook is gloomy but once we prove we're on a sound financial footing and the team progresses upwards I'm sure an investor or two will come along and we'll eventually be back where we belong - top flight!
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11 November 2013 16:53 Post ID: #163154 - in reply to #163144
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This article could have been written by me!! First game in 1959 for a start.

We are where we because the club fell into the wrong hands and we the fans have had to salvage what we could from the wreckage.

Yes it will take a long time to climb the mountain again but that is the hand we have been dealt and we have to accept it. Sure we get little coverage on national TV but there are 16,000 of us there every week so do we care?

It hruts of course but we just have to grin and bear it.
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11 November 2013 17:24 Post ID: #163156 - in reply to #163122
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(Got a feeling this could be a long one)

As much as Pompey is a huge part of my life it is not 'my life' so although I do get disappointed when we lose I equally get excited when we win... In some strange way it does matter (week by week) what league we are playing in and long as we are striving to compete in it and not merely thread water.

I started my Pompey education at (IMO) the worse possible time ... as a kid I was told of the greats; Dickinson, Harris, Scoular, Froggatt etc.. and the characters Saunders, Gordon, Harry Harris, McCann etc

Everybody in the city had happy memories of Pompey and the good times were in most peoples living memories .. For me I had missed it all.

Still there was this new guy in town called Mr Deacon who promised us that the big signings would come and the sleeping giant that is Portsmouth Football Club' would return to where it belongs ... The Pinnacle of the Football League .... I was eight - I believed him !

The history books tell the rest from two to three form three to four and if it wasn't for the like of Burrows, Ball and Smith we'd still be down there now (erm .. well you know what i mean) .. Slowly we climbed the leagues .. along came Northampton, Huddersfield, Plymouth, Liverpool ... Those that attended will know what I mean ...

Then the impossible happened Bally took us (tears and all) back to the first division .. We knew deep down we wouldn't survive .. but at least (for the first time for my generation at least ) we could go to Anfield, Old Trafford, Highbury, Goodison, the City Ground and see Pompey play a league game .. The results didn't matter to us .. to beat the scum was what most people wanted.. and beat the scum we did.

For one season we lived the high life and then as Rug mentioned we spent years in the wilderness with the odd exception of a cup semi final and replay at Highbury and Villa Park.

Then came the Redknapp years .. Years where he wheeled and dealed and not only took us into the Premiership but gave us the ultimate memory of a date and subsequent victory with Cardiff.

Then as we know it all went 'tits up' and putting aside who is to blame for what happened we slipped from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 .. or whatever the modern day equivalents are... and was upset ? sure .. and was I disappointed ? sure .. but that is football.

We are Portsmouth we are proud and I firmly believe we are one of the most passionate club in the world .. yes the world !.. Ask AC Milan.

The thing (for me) about being a Pompey fan is not to think too much .. don't wish for a future that might not be achievable and live each season as it comes and put it into the context of your life .. We may never see Pompey in the premiership again .. but so what .. Did those years define my experiences or memories of supporting PFC... nah it added to them and made them richer but what is an up if you dont have a down... Ask Man Utd fans .. they lose a game and their whole world collapses .. those glory hunters don't know what it is like to support a proper team.

After a long response my point is this .. If you spend your time wishing you were there, you won't enjoy the journey ... and the journey is what it is all about !

PUP
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12 November 2013 09:17 Post ID: #163164 - in reply to #163122
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Got some cracking responses on the front page .. well worth a look
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