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(FOOTBALL TALK!!) AFC Wimbledon v Pompey - MATCH DAY LIVE...
16 November 2013 20:04 Post ID: #163742 - in reply to #163077
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Front page match report from paultsmouth on the link above or simply read it below...

What is the absolute bottom Pompey can realistically stoop to? At the moment we are level with a sausage dog, only the skirting remains before the non league abyss opens up like an all consuming black hole.

The two cup defeats were bad enough, losing 2-1 was not great, although we fought with just ten men, losing easily to Newport county was worse, barely having a sniff in losing 3-0, but 4-0 to Wimbledon has surely got to be the lowest point of another low season, between 2002 and 2008 we were treated to football and success most of us never dreamed of, how we are paying for that now!

Since our draw with AC Milan only 5 years ago it has been a steady decline, actually steady is not the right word, dramatic more suiting. 3 relegations and two administrations have tested the hardiest of hardy fans, after the takeover earlier this year, we knew better days were ahead off the field, on the field though it's more of the same, false dawns and going down to sloppy goals and passionless displays.

I feel for Guy Whittingham now I really do, fans are forgiving but a minority is becoming a majority in their lack of patience with the current Pompey squad, Johnny Ertl is becoming a scapegoat for a team below par, harsh on our player of the year, but you know every mistake will shine like a beacon, any good work slip under the radar.

So, to Wimbledon, to sum it up, we gave away a spot kick in the first half hour, Carson was the culprit, but he redeemed himself with a great save and follow up.

N'Gala then gave away a needless corner that was of course converted by Frampton, Wimbledon netted again only for the ref to blow for a foul.

Hopefully harsh words were said at half time, what effect they had did not matter, a poor first half was to decompose into a worse second, Pompey being asleep straight away, we got away with another goalmouth scramble, East finally smuggling the ball away.

The respite was only temporary, Barcham saw his shot hit a pits and trickle to safety and then it was all over, Frampton who scored once in a blue moon couldn't believe his luck, nodding home from close range from another set piece, Pompey again chasing shadows in blue shirts.

Moore then added a goal of quality as Pompey faded away, blasting in from 25 yards, then Smith added a fourth, how many of the 802 away fans still remained is open to question, as the amount sat at Fratton watching the game the same answer.

Pompey are at a pivotal point once more, this time with the fans, loyalty CAN be tested, gallows humour has been in the stands a long time now, but at the end of the day someone gets hung.

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Barcham I suppose for supplying the little attacking threat we had.

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16 November 2013 23:13 Post ID: #163749 - in reply to #163077
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I'm taking not a little barracking from my AFC mate for this one. Couldn't listen to this one, and for that I'm eternally grateful. There has to be changes, in tactics, approach and mental attitude. It's no good thinking we're the biggest club in the division and expecting deference ( I mean the players here) we are going to have to scrap with the best of them. I don't think we'll have the same management team by the time we play them at home.
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17 November 2013 00:15 Post ID: #163750 - in reply to #163077
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Do you know something? I still have a quiet giggle to myself seeing you in league 2 getting thumped by really shit teams. It was also marvelous scenes seeing you get knocked out of the cup in round one by bloody Stevenage Boro HAHAHA. Can't have you boosting the club coffers can we?

On the other hand look at us? Smashing teams like Blackburn in front of 28,000 fans. Great isn't it?

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17 November 2013 01:14 Post ID: #163751 - in reply to #163077
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Headline from BBC Sport: "Brighton clinched their first home win since mid-September with victory over Blackburn. "

Oh yeah, tearing up the league!

Edited by tempest 17/11/2013 01:16
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17 November 2013 08:09 Post ID: #163754 - in reply to #163077
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Despite being beaten like shite team like Wimbledon we are still getting 15,000 or thereabouts regularly as a league two side, not bad at all and not sure you guys would be able to say the same in the same position...

Alas best ignoring people like Steve I guess!

People like him seem to have VERY short memories and forget the struggles that Brighton have had in the past and I dare say will again once it is decided that no more money is available and that what has been put in is wanted back...
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17 November 2013 08:14 Post ID: #163755 - in reply to #163749
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Lemmi - 16/11/2013 23:13

I'm taking not a little barracking from my AFC mate for this one. Couldn't listen to this one, and for that I'm eternally grateful. There has to be changes, in tactics, approach and mental attitude. It's no good thinking we're the biggest club in the division and expecting deference ( I mean the players here) we are going to have to scrap with the best of them. I don't think we'll have the same management team by the time we play them at home.


Very true Lemmi, and you were best off not listening!

I missed the first 10-mins or so and the final 15-minutes, that inbetween wasnt great at all...

Might not be the case but I still think we 'could' still see something happen with the management set-up this week before the next game, if not then unless dramatic improvement is seen with how we play and we get a win we will almost certainly see one after Scunny.

Things cannot go on like this and if they do IF we have not seen change by the time the Wombles womble into Fratton to say you would have gisgruntled punters would be an understatement. Yep, I know the turnouts we are getting are great but lets be honest the 15,000 or so we are getting would be massively reduced next season as people will not renew ST for this...
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17 November 2013 10:30 Post ID: #163761 - in reply to #163077
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I don't quite know what to say about this result, accept I'm pretty miffed. I'll leave it at that... it says enough!

What I will say though, is that it ties in with Penton's thread nicely. We bought into the hype after the fans buyout. We were going to rip this league apart because we had a huge fan base and a superior squad.

We still have the huge fan base compared to others in League 2, but I'm afraid our team is no better than the majority that make up this league. Grunt and graft is what's needed down in the bargain-basement, along with big hearts and a love for the club.

As much as I hate to admit it, slick one touch football is for those a little higher up the scale. Down where we are we need ankle tappers and hoofers... and head butters if they can get away with it... PUP
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17 November 2013 10:36 Post ID: #163764 - in reply to #163750
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stevebha - 17/11/2013 00:15

Do you know something? I still have a quiet giggle to myself seeing you in league 2 getting thumped by really shit teams. It was also marvelous scenes seeing you get knocked out of the cup in round one by bloody Stevenage Boro HAHAHA. Can't have you boosting the club coffers can we?

On the other hand look at us? Smashing teams like Blackburn in front of 28,000 fans. Great isn't it?



.. every dog has it's day .. How's the debt on your stadium..
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17 November 2013 10:52 Post ID: #163766 - in reply to #163761
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cornypomp - 17/11/2013 10:30

I don't quite know what to say about this result, accept I'm pretty miffed. I'll leave it at that... it says enough!

What I will say though, is that it ties in with Penton's thread nicely. We bought into the hype after the fans buyout. We were going to rip this league apart because we had a huge fan base and a superior squad.

We still have the huge fan base compared to others in League 2, but I'm afraid our team is no better than the majority that make up this league. Grunt and graft is what's needed down in the bargain-basement, along with big hearts and a love for the club.

As much as I hate to admit it, slick one touch football is for those a little higher up the scale. Down where we are we need ankle tappers and hoofers... and head butters if they can get away with it... PUP :17:


Hi Corns... Gotta say that even I am having a problem defending Guy .. but in fairness nobody from the club said we were gonna rip up League two .. In fact if I recall the board and the mgmt said they weanted stability ... But the rest I have to agree with ..
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17 November 2013 11:44 Post ID: #163776 - in reply to #163077
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I for one have never bought into the 'ripping the league up' mindset - consolidation and stability was my outlook for this season, but I did expect us to put up a fight and show some bollox at the very least.

Since the York debacle results have papered over the cracks. Teams that try to play football we are more than a match for on our day but most of this league is about lumping the ball up and outrunning our defence. As a small side (on the whole) we are outmuscled by teams who clearly want it more.
We are in League Two and we should be prepared for the style of play that League Two entails.

A couple of the lads and I are over for the Scunny game and I expect a reaction. Unfortunately that is not the first time I have said that this season so I won't hold my breath.

Edited by tempest 17/11/2013 11:46
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17 November 2013 11:58 Post ID: #163778 - in reply to #163077
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All in all I would have to say that the vast majority, if not all, of the posters on this site were not in the 'ripping this league up' thoughts either are they?

Definitely results had papered over the cracks without a doubt...

Its such a tough one, I have not done any away games apart from Plymouth (as that was a home one) but have in the main enjoyed the Fratton games and that is what I have wanted from this season.

However, and there is a however, since the Chesterfield game (couldnt make the Rochdale one) I have come away from most of these games not feeling it and have very much been of the 'papering over the cracks' thoughts without a doubt.

Bury was awful, the Exeter game wasnt too bad but they are another side that likes to play football. We outplayed them in difficult conditions, but once they exposed our weakness they very nearly found a way back. The excitment of the final 20-minutes, the fact we won and because it was against the side that is closest to my home these days again probably (if I am honest and think back) papered over the cracks.

Like you tempest think its imperative we get a reaction this weekend, if not then something will have to change no two ways about it surely...
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