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Baros probably signs if Fred stays

It has been confirmed by Lyon president Jean-Michel Aulas that either Milan Baros or Fred will leave the club by the end of the month - but not both.

Fred appeared as though he would be staying with Lyon after all, but maybe this will not be the case: 'It is established between Fred and Baros that one of them will leave the club before the end of the January transfer window.

'But I cannot say which one as we are still receiving offers for both of them'.

So if Fred stays Milan Baros goes - and probably here - on the face of it? As I had previously suggested with a comment I made, this is what could have been 'the complicated issue' that Baros' agent spoke of?

Another possibility - although unlikely could be that we might try a fresh approach for Fred... this would not appear likely as he never seemed at all interested in our offer. We did have a 9m offer accepted but he never acknowledged us at all.

Worse case scenario will see us miss out all together - then we will be back to square one with time running out, so all being well this will be sorted out by the weekend, the end of it at the latest...

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Writer: pompeyrug Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday January 24 2008

Time: 12:00PM

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I wish we had the finances at Blackburn that you lads fortunately have, gonna be a good race for the Euro Spots, good luck with signing Fred, he is amazing, i dont think you should splash the cash on Baros though
sasman
its not fred that we look like signing - we had offered 9m and seen it accepted - but the target now is baros... i think... it will be a very interesting race for the european places tho mate, you are spot on with that.
pompeyrug
Getting the right pieces is one thing, getting them to fit is another. That fine line will decide the uefa places. We actually need Chelski to beat the Spuds in the league cup, as that will give another place to who finishes 6th.
storagematt
We never had an offer accepted. We spread a runour that e were offering 9 mill for Fred to see if Spurs would buy him and let Defoe go. It was going to plan until Fred's wage demands were above what Spurs were prepared to pay. Now Defoe is going nowhere. We can't pay what Spurs offered so he won't come here. So he is likely to stay where he is. Which means?????
frattonaussie
what Spurs offered Fred should be the sentence
frattonaussie
what about a loan move for walcott?
ausoccer
funny you should say that ausoccer as ive written an article - that i am undecided about publishing - with it being my theory that we have already made an approach... however my theory being that we want to use him on the right and wenger wants him used as an out and out striker.
pompeyrug
sorry frattonaussie, but i disagree... i do think that we bid and had an offer of 9m accepted, as i do think that if the quality is right we do have the funds - obviously 'arry thought his quality was right but he didnt want to know... im a 'defoist' and as much as i have wanted defoe i would probably have to say that fred is better, altho we couldnt say for sure he would settle in this country could we?
pompeyrug
ausoccer, further to my walcott thought - see above - as this has also been mentioned in the forum i decided to publish my article in there, but with vital bolton doing something on walcott now i might not publish, well not for a while - if at all - but to see my ramblings on my 'walcott theory' click here...
pompeyrug
Baros loan signing close according to OS
yellowcheesemonkey
ycm Just seen that and came here to add. But you beat me! HR seems confident.
eastneydave
well ive added something now - you would expect it to be almost 100% certain or he wouldnt be on the pompey site saying so would he...
pompeyrug
walcott would be decent cover and since we lack depth in both positions (striker and midfield) I think he would get a chance to play in both. Actually, he would be more likely to get a chance as a forward because as soon as Utaka comes back he goes back to the right, Wenger's got nothing to worry about
whitestones
walcott would be a great loan signing, and i would put him in upfront, if he wanted to play there. I am feeling pretty confident that Harry may have discussed this with arsne - howeer my thinking is he might have said no. (but if he said yes, he would want him here BEFORE we play man u and chelsea...)
pompeycarpet
Sorry to disagree again. Even Harry said we never made an official offer for Fred, we just tested the water. Yes tested it to push Spurs but its all acedemic now as Fred isn't going anywhere, neither is Defoe and we look like getting Milan Baros- name sounds like he should be in wrestling. Milan, The Gladiator, Baros. Re Walcott; Wenger is just trying to get a club to get him going as a class striker as Wenger hasn't got the time or patience to do it himself and doesn't want to lose a player he paid 12 million for as a teenager. As soon as he becomes a good striker Wenger will want him back so the club has done Wengers work for him on Wengers terms and they end up with another quality player lining up against them. Thats great business sense if are sily enough to do it.? The only clubs that it could be worth it for are lower level Championship teams or Derby who need to clutch at anything.
frattonaussie
walcott is not a bad player at the moment, and if he came to pompey, h would probably be good enough to play. In all honesty, if walcott doesnt make it as a striker, arsne will just get someone else in - thats the way football works - but there is no problem with taking a player in on loan for half a season, as we clearly need some cover in upfront and right midfield, and walcott could probably offer us that cover.
pompeycarpet
Did'nt Harry say some disparaging things about Walcott at the time of his sale to AFC?.
plymouth graham
Yes he did say things. Carpet, in business outside football, would you loan equipment to a competitor so he could learn to use it and then use it to compete with you for a contract. I think not. A footballer is equipment. Why on earth would you take a footballer, be dictated to on where and when he plays, train him and teach him his skillsand then give him back to your competitor so he can score goals against you. A little short term gain for a possible big loss in the future. No way.
frattonaussie
frattonaussie, yes but 'arry says alot of things - and as much as i love the fella lets be honest we know that he doesnt always tell the truth...
pompeyrug
We get Milan if Fred stays eh.... Don't move a muscle Fred, don't even twitch... stand still, very still ..a tleast until Milan has put pen to paper...... I feel a Friday press conference coming on....
Chix
hopefully... but i have this feeling baros is getting cold feet - maybe thats just my 'it wont happen with a striker' worries...
pompeyrug
intresting analogy frattonaussie - but one i disagree with! If one of your competiters had a better pc than you, and so was doing better than you, would you loan it from him, use it for a bit, helping you catch up a little, and in doing so install a few bits of extra software for him - then give it back to him? yes! Taking him on loan would help our european charge, which, if succesfull, would then help attract more players to us! in addition to this, if he is up for grabs for a loan deal, someone else will nab him, and use him against us - and also, will we really be competing ith arsnal next year? sure, MAYBE in a few years, but we need a bit of quality in the mean time - and they arnt likey to perminantly join you unless you are at least in europe...
pompeycarpet
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