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What Pompey Need for Europe

What Pompey Need for Europe

One of my co-editors wrote an article-encouraging Arsenal to beat Tottenham in the Carling Cup. He thinks that based on the rules of European qualification, this would have resulted in the seventh spot becoming a European place.

Many managers will talk about having a good season and getting into the top six, qualifying for Europe. In fact the only guaranteed UEFA cup spot is 5th place!

Top Two

The top two teams in the Premier League will automatically qualify for the group stages of the Champions League, avoiding any qualification.

Third and Fourth

These two teams will enter the third round of qualification for the Champions League. The winner of the two-leg qualifier will enter the group stages.

Fifth Place

If Portsmouth where to capture fifth spot this season they would automatically qualify for the UEFA cup.

Sixth and Seventh

Neither side would automatically qualify for Europe and would be relying on outcomes of the two domestic cup competitions.

F.A. Cup

If the winner of the F.A cup isn`t in the top five of the Premiership then they qualify for the UEFA cup. If they are and the runners-up aren`t in the top five, then they qualify for the UEFA cup. If the FA Cup champions and runners-up both finish in the top five of the Premier League, the UEFA Cup spot goes to the next placed team in the League e.g sixth.

The League Cup

If the winner of the league cup isn`t in the top five then they will claim a UEFA cup spot. HOWEVER if the winners are in the top five then the runners-up DON`T receive a european place. It goes to the next highest placed team not in Europe, either sixth or seventh.

What does this mean for Pompey?

We need the F.A cup final to be between two sides who are both in the top five of the Premier League. For example; if two from Manchester United, Arsenal,Chelsea or whoever finishes fifth i.e. Tottenham, then the sixth/seventh spot (depending on league cup) becomes a European place.

In the league cup we just require the winner to finish in the top five. That`s why a win for Arsenal would almost gurantee an extra European spot. Although the League Cup final occurs before the F.A Cup final, so if Chelsea or Arsenal do win that opens up sixth not seventh spot.

If Tottenham win the League Cup (also don`t finish in the top five) and the F.A cup winner is a team outside the top five e.g Man City, then only fifth place in the league would see Pompey qualify.

We want Chelsea or Arsenal to win the league cup and the F.A cup final to consist of two teams already in the top five and then and only then, will 5th,6th and 7th spot enable Portsmouth qualification for the UEFA cup.

Is There any Other Way?

Yes there are two more ways; First is the highest placed team not having qualified for the UEFA cup is offerd to play in the UEFA Intertoto Cup. This may be 6th,7th or 8th spot. The competion occurs in the summer (pre-season). Previously three winners would enter the UEFA cup. As of this season, eleven winning teams will go through to the second qualifying round of the UEFA Cup.

The other is a fair play award given to the team with the least amount of yellow and red cards. That team then enters a draw with other teams from different countries, with the winner qualifying for the UEFA cup. Don`t worry too much about this one as Pompey don`t stand much of a chance through this back door entrance. I think Charlton won this award last year but weren`t selected from the hat.


I hope this long and complicated article has cleared up some of the confusion behind the European qualification. Any questions please email me at portsmouth@vitalfootball.co.uk.

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The Journalist

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Date:Tuesday January 30 2007

Time: 1:38PM

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It appears I was WAY off with what I said so I hold my hands up, got so caught up in the usual top six gains European football that I appear to have forgotten an Arsenal verses Chelsea final would only make that the case. FA Cup winning could make a top seven place good enough. Again I wasn't looking to wind up Spurs fans was only ever an article on what I thought would benefit Pompey and help us gain European football...
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30/01/2007 13:55:00

yeah and if you have any questions email me at notachanceforpompey@hotmail.com
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30/01/2007 13:58:00

You guys'll finish above the Spurts this season. You have to as you have most of our older players!!! Never apologise for winding them up!!! They have ideas way way above their ability (remember after last season that THIS was their season and they're gonna be battling for a Champs League place hahahahaha).
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30/01/2007 14:25:00

After a pretty average/bad January & need a win tonight, must get a decent result at Wigan & at home to Man City to consoldate. Any thing else & we may be playing catch up to Reading & Everton. If we are still around 6th place come Easter, then we can start to get excited. Thinking & singing about now will just add to the agony if we drop. Our last few league games were naff. Need a huge improvement to stay where we are. And yes we do need a bit of help from the famous 4.
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30/01/2007 14:57:00

I promised my kids before the start of the season that if Pompey qualified for Europe i would take them both to wherever Pompey's first match was. This was in response to my 8 year old asking if I thought we would qualify for Europe. I scoffed at the idea. i'm not so sure now.
The Rabbi
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30/01/2007 15:08:00

Haha you better get saving mate- we are going europe!
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30/01/2007 15:32:00

"5th place, i.e Tottenham" You are having a laugh mate. You can win away fella, so top six is yours.
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30/01/2007 15:45:00

I'm a Spurs fan, but think 5th place is a bit of a push now, still got a chance to catch you boys though, only 4 points in it!
Dan Mac
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30/01/2007 16:25:00

Pompey will drop off...they have several of our rejected players, and everyone knows harry redknapps sides finish 7th !!!
The truth
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30/01/2007 16:34:00

You wouldnt know the truth if it bit you lol
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30/01/2007 16:45:00

"the truth" if you read the article you will see 7th may be good enough for europe!
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30/01/2007 16:56:00

I'll take 5th easily but also 6th or 7th if they get us in... What Pompey Need for Europe? The main thing to begin with is 3 points tonight, vital...
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30/01/2007 16:58:00

Perhapse all those who kep telling me we should settle for 6th place will think again. The article also puts those dropped points at home into perspective. The other need for Europe is a stronger squad.
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30/01/2007 17:01:00

lots of ways to get into europe
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30/01/2007 17:05:00

6th place will almost certainly do russell I'm sure, pretty sure that 7th could also...
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30/01/2007 17:08:00

try to exceed ruggers. we should be in 5th and clear of 7th, as it is we are looking over our shoulders
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30/01/2007 21:34:00

sorry ruggers we have not won since the start of the year and people keep telling me that's ok, i want us to be winners, lets be honest we were not going to get relegated for a month but it seems complacency is in bred now, there are lots of if only's but it seems we are letting it slip away bit by bit. Im becoming a member of the pompey pessimist fan club
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30/01/2007 21:47:00

shock of shocks we dont beat Boro, but hey that is alright doesnt matter that we pay money for the moment we are in 6th
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30/01/2007 21:48:00

We've not won since Boxing Day russellm and if you need more stats then take a look at the article with Yakubu in the heading - our forwards have only scored 2 league goals in the last 9 matches. [Edited by TruePompeyBlue]
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31/01/2007 17:01:00

as you may have noticed TPB i was having a tantrum, i wanted to be constructive and perhapse if i didnt have a PDA at the games i would have to wait till i got home and wouldnt be so emotive about the results. in my line of work you are only as good as your last contract and i think that saying is a variance on the great Bill Shankley's your only as good as your last game. i am not very good at accepting poor performances, i pay for my ticket and it costs me about 40 just to get to Fratton and back so why should i accept people telling me i should be happy with poor performances just because we are in 6th.
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