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*Fernandes Fails Medical*

Fernandes has failed a second medical with Pompey still concerned about the players groin injury. Harry has said; "We will see what his situation is in a couple of weeks."

However Vital Pompey understands that he will have more tests next week to enable enough time to find a replacement. Harry has admitted that he is frustrated;

'It has been a frustrating summer but we are still in there trying and I couldn't ask for more support from the owners.'

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The Journalist

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Date:Thursday August 17 2006

Time: 4:06PM

Your Comments

If they think 2 weeks will make a difference why not get him signed up anyway. If they think it's more serious then bin the deal all together.
Steve C
Not the news we were hoping to hear today, groan!
Tantona
agreed again steve, i have just posted i hope we take the risk, surely a deferred payment deal can be done. Or as you say if it is real serious bin or keep him here and hold an option on his contract in its entirety untill January. not the best comparisons but real madrid did it for Woodgate.
russellm
Have to say Steve, that as far as I am concerned this is another signal for scepticism. I have as you know always been optomistic, BUT// we have been linked with 100 million worth of players and spent 1m. Harry said he looked fit now, now he aint. Several players we have been in for we suddenly become disinterested in. I doubt now if we have money? Lots of big offers, but none coming off. is that because we are being found out when we cannot pay?
wakey
I don't doubt the money is there but the sort of players we're hoping to get see that we narrowly avoided relegation, when other clubs are interested and can offer them europe and better facilities than ours it's not so hard to understand why they end up going elsewhere. If we can improve this season then next season should be a bit easier to get the players we want.
Steve C
BBC are quoting Muntari as saying that a deal to bring him to Pompey is 99% done. A bit of slightly better news for us.
Steve C
continuing in my pessimist vane,.....next season not without the facilities steve, and according to an interview the guardian on line did with Sacha there now seems to be yet another problem with the stadium and it has been stopped ( have to say ive not read this anywhere else and it was a fairly anti pompey article). Gentleman in the Rutland who rang about the council about the training facility was told that there is no design for the training facility in place so planning consent can be considered. Everything is still years away.
russellm
yeah, but Muntari is another defensive midfielder isnt he? I see Duffy is aiming for a starting place, if he is I suggest he looks at moving into centre forward and he'll walk straight in. I accept what you are saying about the likes of farfan, martins etc, BUT// what about the likes of NUGENT etc, surely we should be able to pull that one out of the bag, and Kanu (not that I am too excited about him coming) FFS hasnt even got a job but it takes weeks to seal a deal. WHY???
wakey
I read the same article Oy Vey Pompey i believe it was called. It was obviously designed to suggest that Sacha has no money and that we are being funded by Arkady. Think it was also meant to cast doubt on HR's future. I took most of what it said with a pinch of salt. The comment about the stadium did concern me but nobody has actually backed that up. I would imagine that as the Training facility stands drawing up plans for it could be a lengthy process, especially if thay have to be approved in Israel first lol.
Steve C
Nugent according to one report i read is now a target for Newcastle.
Steve C
Thats a shame. He looks like a quality player but we can't bid if he's not fit. We don't want a sidelined player who will be earning masses of wages, its just not right. Lets hope his fitness will be sorted in a couple of weeks.
POMPEYMEV
WHat is your source Les? I don't believe for one minute you are the only person on the net to have this piece of info.
Pompey4europe
Re Nugent, i repeat Preston can afford not to sell him and believe they will get a lot more for him next year. HR does not believe he is worth the money (7 mill) they are asking...so Newcastle will take him and he'll bang in 20 goals. yep steve C i think it was the same article, i havent seen any back up for the stadium comments either and it has to be said the Gaydamaks and Guardians are opposite end of the political spectrum. I did spread (ooops) i mean hear a rumour the stadium delays are due to the awarding of the contract for sabbath sausage rolls, and of course the Kosher Balti pies :-).
russellm
Pompey4Europe i found it on 4thegame and one or two others
russellm
although they look familiar and im starting to think they are re-issued reports furthermore Newsnow has not carried a report as yet so im getting a bit suspicious about this one. time to go checking
russellm
Have tyou got the link?
Pompey4europe
dont bother Pompey4Europe just checked and it is dated 27th JULY !!!! also i have just called my mate at AP and he says they do not have any info as yet, nor do newsnow and they are normally pretty quick. Unless it was on the radio solent or quay or something, but i cant find it on the net.
russellm
though i have found that Preston have made an inquiry about striker sam parkin .....could i be delightfully wrong and Nugent be winging his way to us or shall i just take some stronger drugs { :-)
russellm
More quality reporting from Vitalfootball then...
Pompey4europe
drugs I reckon russellm, but i would be delighted to be proved wrong too. I reckon Nugent is exactly what we want for this season, and if we can get into top 1/2 of league we will be able to draw other higher class players next year, or even possibly at xmas with a good early showing/.
wakey
theres a lot to be said about players like Nugent coming to a team like us where they will get to play and they have a point to prove. If they were signed by the likes of the big 4 their chances of playing would be much smaller.
Steve C
I currently have solent, & 5 live open, both have run a sports report and not mentioned anything about fernandes. Its not always easy P4E, sometimes the news sindication sites like newsnow and AP and reuters unintentionally re cycle news, when things go quiet their main frames auto archive and some times it happens.
russellm
Agree entirely Steve C, trouble is we just dont seem to be able to draw them in. I would have thought that for those very reasons we would have presented a tasty opportunity for Nugent to get into the premiership, prove himself week in week out, and take it on from there. If he moves bigger the chances are restricted, if he stays where he is his senior England chances will be reduced. Sadly it is not me that needs convincing.
wakey
god solent is boring !!!! todays current topic is a vote regarding addressing old woman in Fareham as love, or dear..... thats it wheres the prozac
russellm
russellm, this is the rabbi here. stop the jewish jokes now. it ain't pretty.
The Rabbi
So, you just repeat what others are saying then. Perhaps a more rigourous approach is needed on this site.
Pompey4europe
wakey normally i would agree with you and Steve C, how ever i cant becuase im being miserable and also because Nugent is playing aginst international class players for England under 21's and scoring. McClaren is known for wanting to promote players through that set up, i would love to be wrong but in the mean time it'll be the drugs.
russellm
sorry rabbi no offence intended, nope P4E i was trying to explain why Les may have picked up a wrong report, just had another report on solent and no news re fernandes but did you know the radio solent daisy appeal was now running
russellm
there are better places to get pompey news than newsnow or AP, indeed local radio.
Pompey4europe
im not a reporter working on the site P4E and living in surrey i can only get what i can read / listen to on the internet/ radio, if you have better places that another Pompey fan can get news i'll take it.
russellm
Don't ask my mum, she doesn't know the first thing about Pompey
Pompeyscum
Is the failed medical just a cheap shot of getting the price down? Old habits die hard!
storagematt
pompey4europe you make these remarks alot and every time i have been proven right! Most will report it tomorrow but for now teamtalk are saying its a second failed medical, harry is saying we will review it later and so is square football. Can i remind you to discuss the article and not complain about it, if you have a complaint email me and i will be very happy to talk about the source of information from which this came from.
lmatthews
storagematt story so far regads this article. you might be right but the problem is, i did a search to find where Les got his story from and found some reports but not being a journo i checked and they turned out to be last month's being re circulated. I cant find anywhere on the net or radio stations that is currently carrying it. So i wonder if Les had picked up an old report. Ive found out that midfielder Muntari's agent says a deal for the player with Pompey is close and that Preston have approached Ipswich for a striker (pos back up or replacement for Nugent). But cant find anything on Fernandes, if you know better please tell
russellm
gents, Just heard Peter Storrie say on radio solent Fernandes deal still on, no further medical required, discussions with benfica still on going
russellm
good job i listened to the local radio staion over the internet eh
russellm
wasn't my story in the first place but i 110% promise you that he had tests today and he is not ready to sign yet! otherwise he would have already
lmatthews
Hi Les, i was just responding to comments i was getting from P4 europe for trying to find the provenance of the story, i.e. radio, TV and the internet,n I dont know if you heard RADIO but according to jacka storrie it seems they have to wait until the scar tissue goes down, and in the mean time they are trying to arrange something with benfica so he can play prior to a full signing. I suppose the positive is all agree "he's good lad"
russellm
i did russ, yes, find an article, prob same one you did think it was ITV (a national reporting website) i used their quote in-fact! I then contacted the club and was told that after further tests he isn't ready to sign yet. OW NO it turns out that it wasn't a medical after all but whatever you want to call it, he isn't fit enough to sign yet!!!! FACT
lmatthews
Les you are the worst kind of journalist - a wannabe journalist who gets his stories and quotes from other sites (most of which are very unreliable) and twist them into something you think will get people reading the site. You are not proved right everytime. And changing the goal posts does not change that - medical --> 'tests'. If you want to know what is really going on at the club, and actually get upto date info, read the messageboards - and not the one on here. Les all the news you have is old. It became clear tonight that Fernandes will sign on loan, something i and many others could have told you weeks ago. But no site on newsnow or newspaper said this so you didn't copy and paste it on to here.
Pompey4europe
Come on Pompey4europe, if you have a problem with les then take it to him direct, not over this website. Furthermore, you always have the option of not reading
wakey
FOR THE 1,000,001 TIME EMAIL ME LESMATTHEWSPFC@HOTMAIL.COM You don't care about the article, you run another site and want to bring this one down, Email me and discus it or i'm going to have to remove you from the site, which i don't want to do!
lmatthews
didn't think you would
lmatthews
Whatever spin you want to put on it Les your story is incorrect.
Sheer Class
THIS ARTICLE IS NOT TRUE. FERNANDES HAS NOT FAILED ANOTHER MEDICAL, AS THERE WAS NO NEED FOR HIM TO. PETER STORRIE CONFRIMED TONIGHT THE PLAYER HAS ONLY HAD THE ONE MEDICAL, AND THE CLUB ARE STILL HOPEFUL OF SIGNING HIM.
Geoff_Hinnell
geoff i posted it as he said it, i think Pompey4 Europe and Les have a bit more going on,
russellm
pompey4Europe, im not a journalist i just get on this web site to find out about pompey like you, the reason i leave newsnow on is because it scans the web every 3-5 mins, including the official pompey site. if it is true you run another web site you should let people know.
russellm
fine i admit it wasn't a medical, i picked up a quote that turned out to be old SORRY but the fact remained the player isn't fit enough to sign yet
lmatthews
I take it an apology to POL Admin will be forthcoming tonight
Sheer Class
WHAT?????
lmatthews
"May i also say that you can be sued for comments like that", indicating you may be sued for an article isnt very nice or mature.
Sheer Class
Russell, not having a go at you. I just hate bad journalism. Good journalist check the facts before they publish something - no matter where it is published. Who wrote this piece? The FACT is that is an old quote which you twisted into a story about a 'medical'. The headline should be 'Fernandes on the way to fitness' - but tha doesn't make a good story does it? I don't run another site, and i'm not tryint to bring this one down. I would however, like to see this site closed - just like many other sites on the web which talk crap about Portsmouth, twist quotes and get the expectations of fans up without any evidence. I will not email you because i don't want you to have my email address. BTW - did Murphy and Reid's agent really meet on a boat? Did Vargas really sign? Did any of the other speculation you publish come true? NO.
Pompey4europe
sheer class it was a joke lol you really think i would sue a fans website for saying my name without permision. What would i get free membership to your site?
lmatthews
did lua lua sign a new 3 year deal? Was there complications in the Vargas deal? The reid and murphy wasn't there agents (read it) and it was a members article. You could have sent me a private message!
lmatthews
*their
lmatthews
pompey4 europe i did not twist any story i went to find out what it was about.
russellm
Why? You publish you stories publicly, take the criticism publicly. you said all your stories were true - they aren't. The only stories which are right, are the ones everyone knows about already and other sites have already reported on.
Pompey4europe
this is all a bit depressing really we are all supposed to be Pompey fans
russellm
You should have found out what it was about before publishing it.
Pompey4europe
Pompey4europe, what stories have i published?
russellm
Sorry, i got the wrong end of the stick Russell. I thought you had written the story. I have no problem with you, just whoever wrote this story.
Pompey4europe
I guess i should have looked at the author under the story!
Pompey4europe
you have a go at everyone even those not writing it lol
lmatthews
Les, you take all i have critiqued to be aimed at you.
Pompey4europe
ANd i notice you have not changed you article. If you do, perhaps you could re-contextualise the quotes you used so we can see what HR was talking about.
Pompey4europe
all of your critisism has been at me!
lmatthews
If you got that, what was your last comment about? Admit this story is a fabrication, you got it all wrong, whatever.
Pompey4europe
he isn't fit enough to sign fact! or he would have already. Did i get the quote wrong thinking it was new YES
lmatthews
look i will be leaving soon and then you can be happy!!
lmatthews
But he is going to sign next week. Therefore he isn't having "more tests next week to enable enough time to find a replacement." Did you listen to the Solent forum tonight? If you did you would have heard that PFC are looking to sign Fernandes on loan until he recovers from his injury. So he is fit enough to sign.
Pompey4europe
mate whatever the deal is, you have to pass a medical! next week next year whatever he still has to do one and today he did tests and he didn't sign... i'm sure he will next week!
lmatthews
Perhaps you could run a story about Gerrard not signing today aswell. You don't understand how football insurance works do you. If someone signs permanently and you want them insured, the insurance company will make the player take a medical. The results of the medical will determine the costs of the insurance. The player could have a major injury but the insurance company will offset this risk with higher premiums. A club may even sign a player without insurance. When you sign a player on loan the club loaning the player does not insure him, and therefore the player does not have a medical.
Pompey4europe
if thats true... then why did he have a medical in the first place?
lmatthews
OMG Les. Because we wanted to sign him permanantly. What this articles boils down to is 'Fernandes doesn't sign today.' Not exactly ground breaking it is? Also in today's headlines, Kiely doesn't sign a new deal, Redknapp drinks wine, Peter Storrie likes a cake, and Milan hasn't bought the club back.
Pompey4europe
whatever mate, we aren't going to agree
lmatthews
'Whatever' the final line of someone proved wrong. And don't call me 'mate'.
Pompey4europe
JUST GOT HOME FROM WORK TO SEE THIS TALK! I CAN'T GET THE FULL JIST OF IT BUT FROM WHAT I CAN SEE A LOT OF THE COMMENTS HERE DON'T EVEN BELONG IN THIS SECTION, PERSONALLY I THINK SOME OF THESE COMMENTS BELONG IN THE FORUM, OR BETTER STILL E-MAILED DIRECT TO THE EDITOR. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES, NOT SURE IF THIS IS WHAT LES HAS DONE HERE, BUT BASICALLY HE'S GIVING UP HIS TIME TO TRY AND GIVE US ALL A SITE. IF PEOPLE KEEP PUSHING HIM HE'LL GO AND THERE WILL BE NO VITAL POMPEY, I CAN ASSURE YOU IT WOULDN'T BE AS EASY TO RUN AS SOME MAY THINK! I'D SAY THAT SHOULD THE SPONSORS, AND THOSE THAT ADVERTISE ON VITALFOOTBALL COME ACROSS THIS KIND OF TALK (TIME AND TIME AGAIN) ON A MAIN PAGE ARTICLE THEY MAY RECONSIDER THEIR DEALS WITH VITALFOOTBALL WHICH COULD RUIN IT FOR US ALL!!! NO SPONSORS/ADVERTISERS NO VITALFOOTBALL, MEANING NO VITAL POMPEY, VITAL CHELSEA, VITAL ARSENAL ETC ETC... LET'S GIVE LES, AND OTHER JOURNALISTS (AND NOT JUST ON VITAL POMPEY!) A BREAK, DO WE NEED TO SNIPE ALL THE TIME??? I'LL BE HONEST MAYBE I DON'T LIKE SOME THINGS THAT ARE WRITTEN HERE AND THROUGHOUT VITAL FOOTBALL BUT I EITHER DON'T READ IT, OR GIVE IT THE ONE LOOK AND THAT'S IT. HAVE YOUR SAY AND WALK AWAY, IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT, PUT IT IN THE FORUM WHERE IT BELONGS OR E-MAIL THE EDITORS!!!
pompeyrug
Long Thread, Brown Bread....maybe the same applies to Fernandes !!
pompeygray
One has to wonder why he has a problem contacting Les by email. there are any number of free web based emails where he could set up an address and bin it afterwards. Seems to me all we are doing is adding to his pleasre by responding to his juvenile rantings. Best we all ignore Pompey4europe from now on.
Steve C
I agree with Steve C. I look forward to Fernandes playing for Pompey - what all the journalists and commentators have agreed on is that he ain't playin this weekend ! I look forward to the day he does. In the meantime let's go and beat Blackburn with a Benjani goal, as it seems he'll play some part in proceedings I hope !
StuartM
Aout time Les was replaced. Constant speculation he quotes as Fact.
Terence
terence i have said before i do not agree with everything that is put on the site and if you read the hole thing you will see i got caught up in it. but the season is upon us so do you have you any comment about fernandes or are you just volounteering to do the administartors job ?
russellm
PMSL
Pompey4europe
ok i give up what does that mean ? cant people just talk football
russellm
I don't know about anyone else but i wouldn't want to try and run this site. Pompey is notoriously difficult to get information out of. Even if you get a quote direct from HR you have to take it with a pinch of salt as he loves to tease the media by making vague comments interspersed with the odd downright lie. Truth be told what is more important to me than the stories is being able to talk football without the mud slinging that seems to occur on just about every message board and forum i've ever signed up to.
Steve C
i agree steve, and for me there are few things more enjoyable than arguing peoples stupid opinions, supposition and speculation which is wrong , when i know all my stupid opinions, supposition and speculation is erm... less wrong. I have only logged on recently and compared to other sites, the banter is normally quite good, i like the earlofpompey's rants, :-) the pessimist really cheers me up, and the rabbi is my conscience (spell check please somebody). I love to talk about footy, the season is upon us and its great !!!
russellm
russelm PMSL = ***** myself laughing.... how do i cheer u up lol
pompey pessimist
^^^^ p to the i to the double s ^^^^
pompey pessimist
oh and conscience is correct spelling *ding* although i thought it had an o in it. so technically it means "within science", interesting
pompey pessimist
pompey4europe im told runs another site
lmatthews
I DO NOT run another site. Whoever told you that Les is wrong. I have neither the time, skill or desire to run a website.
Pompey4europe
someone said you run... pompeyonline i think
lmatthews
LOL - i post on their messageboard occasionally but i don't run it my any stretch of the imagination. Who told you i ran the site Les? That 'someone' wouldn't be yourself guessing would it?
Pompey4europe
Pompey4europe why don't you bog off? If you don't like the site read a book.
Pompeyscum
ok whatever, do you moan on that site aswel?
lmatthews
pompey4europe thanks for the apology yesterday, if you have your problem with les, why cant you take it private, why do you have to inflict it everybody else.
russellm
No, that site is well run, informative and has far more insight into what is happening than this site. If i did have a problem with POL, i'm sure that i'd be allowed to air my criticism publicly and without being insulted. And Les, i ask you again, who told you i ran POL?
Pompey4europe
Russell, my problem is with te story, and as it says above this box 'Have you say about this article'. And i'm only saying what the vast majority of posters on Rivals, Pompeyonline and the Rubicon board say and think. Its time that site that make money from lies are dealt with. These sites get the hopes of honest fans up based on misreported stories - that is out of order.
Pompey4europe
why if pompeyonlines forum is so good why are you here?
lmatthews
See my last comment - sites like this do nothing positive for Pompey fans. Just trying to improve what there is out there for Pompey fans to read about the club. Unfortunately you don't seem to be a fan of PFC, and are more interested in hits on this site than what affect you have on fans.
Pompey4europe
may be there is some truth in some of what you say and ive disagreed with Les and the main Vital Administration over sensorship, but i couldnt administer a site so im reluctant to criticise. im sorry but i dont want to continually read your disagreement with Les on what has become the longest thread ever, i want to blab on pointlessly about things like tomorrow being the first Pompey game my boy is coming to watch with me & im really excited, i hope to see Fernandes play in a week or so. and as i was aginst Kanu coming but i'll get behind him tomorrow, and as somebody else has posted when you've had a pint Kanu's first name is funny. Off to buy my boy his first shirt, might even risk a fernandes name on the back
russellm
aint true though I LOVE MY CLUB
lmatthews
well i'm leaving vital today so you won't have that problem anymore
lmatthews
pompey4europe why don't you go back to lma06 and leave us all in peace.
Steve C
that aint true i LOVE MY CLUB and i'm leaving vital today anyway so you won't have that problem anymore!
lmatthews
Surely if you have a problem with this or any other site you should deal with it in the proper manner. Firstly go to Les via email, if that fails to satisfy you your next step would be the system administrator and so on up the ladder. your refusal to follow proper procedure marks you out to be vindictive and out for nothing more than to cause as much trouble as you possibly can. Why single out one site from another? There are many sites out there with far bigger names than vital that get their stories wrong on a far more regular basis. You say you don't want Les to have your email address but you had to use it to register so it's available to him anyway so why do you constantly refuse to deal with this in the proper manner unless of course your only reason is spite. Running any fan site is a far from easy job we should be prepared to help those that attempt it, not bring them down for having the balls to do something we wouldn't attempt ourselves.
Steve C
I LOVE MY CLUB
lmatthews
Fernandez (Russellm) will join on the last week, on a Pay per Play style contract. Not pay to the player, but pay to the owning club. We will play an initial fee for the player, with the contract drawn up around fitness and amount of games played. This will be agreed by all as Benfica are guilty of agrovating Fernandez groin injury. Once he played enough games and proved himself, we will pay up the remainder, making hin a Pompey player to be marveled at.
Terence
 

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