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The Great Cotterill Debate

The Great Cotterill Debate

Plenty of chat going on in the forum (here) about Steve Cotterill and what his position as Pompey manager could, or should be...

Chixy posed this question: 'most of you know that I have defended Steve Cotterill since he took over but I am beginning to get a little worried now.

Not just with our results (one win in 16 !) but with our poor performances and poor disciplinary record as well.

I accept 'his' team will take time to gel .. but how long exactly ?

I want your views.. and your vote.. on a one per person basis..
'

So, what you waiting for!

Put forward these thoughts with comments here and/or in that forum thread: here.

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Writer:pompeyrug/Chix
Date:Monday September 19 2011
Time: 6:04PM

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Like you both I think I have wanted this to work; however with the results, the lack of discipline but I think most importantly SC has lost the patience of the crowd. I just don't know who else would want it and is better Full praise must go to SC he stuck with us when we nearly did not have a club
MickTait
19/09/2011 19:24:00
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Like you both I think I have wanted this to work; however with the results, the lack of discipline but I think most importantly SC has lost the patience of the crowd. I just don't know who else would want it and is better Full praise must go to SC he stuck with us when we nearly did not have a club
MickTait
19/09/2011 19:24:00
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I was quick off the mark last season saying he was not doing a good job then we went off on that run and I was eating my post. To be honest he is not my fav but I will give him a while longer to get this team to start winning and picking up points. The discipline in the side needs to improve though.
race
19/09/2011 19:53:00
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I was quick off the mark last season saying he was not doing a good job then we went off on that run and I was eating my post. To be honest he is not my fav but I will give him a while longer to get this team to start winning and picking up points. The discipline in the side needs to improve though.
race
19/09/2011 19:53:00
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Maybe like a lot of fans - but certainly true of Pompey fans - we have a habit of reacting to a few defeats with talk of relegation and the solution being the immediate removal of the Manager. And then, on the back of two or three wins we start talking about conquering Europe. It's been this way for a long time and public pressure more than anything else created the situation where our reputation for hiring and firing, particularly during the Mandaric reign, gathered pace. Yes, we eventually got HR in and he brought some success - but even that, in hindsight, has to be tempered by the mess that we were then left in. Look at the majority of Manager's CV's and most of them have lost their jobs at some point so at that precise time would have been regarded as "incompetent" and"rubbish at managing a football club". And that fact leaves very little out there as a viable alternative unless we simply want to oil the wheels of the managerial merry-go-round and take pleasure in change for changes sake. unfortunately, I think there are too many football fans (not just at PFC) who are as much pacified by changes to the playing or managerial staff as they are by results pon the field. Maybe this is borne out of the fact that in football, because it is more a financial than sporting battle now, any real success is so distant that the real excitement from going to see your team play can only be enhanced by seeing new players in the shirts or a new managerial team in the dugout. And this is fine, but it doesn't necessarily get you any further up the table.
Dave_S139
19/09/2011 20:22:00
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Maybe like a lot of fans - but certainly true of Pompey fans - we have a habit of reacting to a few defeats with talk of relegation and the solution being the immediate removal of the Manager. And then, on the back of two or three wins we start talking about conquering Europe. It's been this way for a long time and public pressure more than anything else created the situation where our reputation for hiring and firing, particularly during the Mandaric reign, gathered pace. Yes, we eventually got HR in and he brought some success - but even that, in hindsight, has to be tempered by the mess that we were then left in. Look at the majority of Manager's CV's and most of them have lost their jobs at some point so at that precise time would have been regarded as "incompetent" and"rubbish at managing a football club". And that fact leaves very little out there as a viable alternative unless we simply want to oil the wheels of the managerial merry-go-round and take pleasure in change for changes sake. unfortunately, I think there are too many football fans (not just at PFC) who are as much pacified by changes to the playing or managerial staff as they are by results pon the field. Maybe this is borne out of the fact that in football, because it is more a financial than sporting battle now, any real success is so distant that the real excitement from going to see your team play can only be enhanced by seeing new players in the shirts or a new managerial team in the dugout. And this is fine, but it doesn't necessarily get you any further up the table.
Dave_S139
19/09/2011 20:22:00
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I always though we would have a tougfh start & was scared stiff that the scummers would have a good one. That just compounds the pressure & misery on us all.Delicate job sacking the manager, new man comes in & if he doesn't get off to a flyer you are no better off. Nobody expected us to be up there, a mid table position is a realistic place for us now. Give him another 4-6 games & I expect some improvement. Like last season, win 1 & you can't stop winning.
storagematt
19/09/2011 20:25:00
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I always though we would have a tougfh start & was scared stiff that the scummers would have a good one. That just compounds the pressure & misery on us all.Delicate job sacking the manager, new man comes in & if he doesn't get off to a flyer you are no better off. Nobody expected us to be up there, a mid table position is a realistic place for us now. Give him another 4-6 games & I expect some improvement. Like last season, win 1 & you can't stop winning.
storagematt
19/09/2011 20:25:00
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The 'great debate' does seem to be going around in circles, so I won't bother repeating my opinions here as well as in the forum, but I've made my defense of Cotterill quite clear.
PompeyFrippy
20/09/2011 03:07:00
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The 'great debate' does seem to be going around in circles, so I won't bother repeating my opinions here as well as in the forum, but I've made my defense of Cotterill quite clear.
PompeyFrippy
20/09/2011 03:07:00
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