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Maybe clubs aren't 'keen' on dealing with PFC?

Whilst I would 'hope' that the vast majority are, and have been, against a 'wild spending spree' this summer I am sure that the vast majority are now becoming a little 'frustrated' at the familiar feeling of 'déjà vu', transfer wise, at Fratton this summer...

Again I cannot stress enough that I have little doubt the club is working hard to bring in players and some good moves have, and will continue still I hope, been made off-the-field since CSI arrived but it is plain to see that we are desperately in need of players!

Well, a thought I have recently had, and just a thought mind - I have nothing to back this up - is 'perhaps' some clubs will not deal with PFC in the transfer market at the moment?

In some ways you would have to say 'can you blame them'...

It is easy to pluck this and that name out of the hat, but actually signing them is another mater - firstly we have the fee, and then agent and signing on fees etc. involved. And then there is the wages, and wages MUST be right for PFC at this stage, a harsh lesson 'should' have been gained from our previous!

Although it is that 'previous' that is 'perhaps' hurting us most of all?

Given the fact that PFC failed to pay-up business, charities and the like, not to mention were long overdue with payments to clubs - some of which were seriously, by all accounts, hurt by these late payments, of course football clubs had the luxury of being 'secured creditors' so would get their money eventually, small business etc. were not and got a small proportion of what they should, in many cases not enough to keep them afloat - are they not dealing with us...

I am not suggesting that 'out of principle' clubs 'might' not deal with us, principle, honour and the like have little place in football these days!

My thoughts are more along the line that some clubs 'might' be thinking twice about dealing with us given the fact that we previously took so long to pay-up on transfer fees etc.

So, it is possible that some clubs are thinking twice about transfer dealings with PFC, even if we have 'turned over a new leaf'...

Perhaps Steve Cotterill's 'contacts' do not stretch far in the game, but as frustrating as it has been at times perhaps 'cast-offs' from Stoke, and 'constant links' to players at Burnley, for players past and present at both clubs, is happening for a reason?

His previous with these clubs 'probably' makes them more willing to deal with him, and be to PFC's benefit, as a result...

With some clubs looking for a larger, if not the whole, chunk of transfer money up front (as personally I think ALL transfers in football should be conducted) when you are talking a 'larger sum' of money maybe it is little wonder deals cannot, or are not, going through as it 'could' be a lot to stump up in one go, especially in the current financial climate?

So, if there is any chance that some of my thoughts are true then it would beg the question why did Cotterill not go after more free agents when he had the chance...

Then again with the CSI takeover not complete as quickly as anticipated - surprise, surprise - did that have an impact on things?

I may be totally wrong, but these were just some thoughts that came into my head so I thought I would share some musings with you...


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    Writer: pompeyrug Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

    Date:Monday August 8 2011

    Time: 10:59AM

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    Rug, I think your thought is a little premature. It's players who have the majority of control over their moves. I think it's more down to the simple fact of salary, bonuses, facilities and Pompeys announced intention to stay in budget. There is still 3 weeks to go and players are holding out so 8-10 days more before the panic button gets pushed.
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    08/08/2011 11:23:00

    not 'panicing' russ, just a tought on why we 'seem' to be dealing with just a small band of clubs?
    its possible that clubs are not that willing to deal with us tho, do you not think?
    as i keep saying i have LITTLE doubt PFC are working really hard to bring in players, and you are right, i also doubt 'wages' and 'bonuses' are not helping us but our previous 'might' not either...
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    08/08/2011 11:37:00

    Since CSI have come in, we have purchased from Derby and Wolves and acquired from Ipswich, Bristol City and Charlton. So I'm not sure that many clubs wouldn't like our money now.
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    08/08/2011 12:09:00

    granted we can add derby (varney) to our portfolio altho 'technically' chuck (ipswich), henderson (bristol city) and dailly (charlton) came in as free agents so we did not deal with these clubs did we ;-)
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    08/08/2011 13:07:00

    Even the big boys tend to pay be installments these days so I do not think that has much to do with it. I just think players are holding out for the best deals they can, after all most of them are just plain greedy aren't they? Can't blame them really, would you bother training and playing football for a measly half a million a year?
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    08/08/2011 15:11:00

    I think that our failings of the recent past have been so well documented, as has that of our new ownership, that clubs 'might' be a little less sceptical in terms of dealind with PFC in the market place. I would like to think so at least, but it's a valid thought. I would have to agree though that the difficulty in the transfers in probably more down to the players and agents themselves rather than the clubs. When you see what some of these players are reportedly earning, it beggars belief. Whilst being frustrated at the lack of new faces in the last 3 weeks or so, I am happy the club appears at least that it will not be held to ransom and is keen to operate on an even keel and within a budget. PUP
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    08/08/2011 17:50:00

    I think it's probably more a case of being too 'limited' with our targets. When one falls through there don't seem to be others on the horizon.
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    08/08/2011 18:21:00

    Rug, the only clubs I can imagine won't deal with Pompey are Spudas cos Levy knowingly dealt with someone who wasn't supposed to and Rangers because Pompey Farquhared them about.
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    08/08/2011 19:05:00

    u would of thought that all the london based players would like to come to pompey because now the hindhead tunnle is done its only 45 min trip to and from london.... so the players of spurs,chelsea, and arsenal wouldnt have to leave home if they were to join us or come on loan...
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    08/08/2011 20:26:00

    I think that one of our problems (if this is a problem) is Steve Cotterill himself. Our manager seems to be hard-headed, and probably does not listen to too many people when looking at players. It also seems to me that Steve Cotterill is a difficult person to work with, and you either get along well with him, or you don't. As for free transfers, that is the way forward. It hurts to see us having 4 subs, and tomorrow we could be with just Henderson or Ashdown! SC should pump up his squad with free transfers and offer them short contracts, like Dailly's.
    Pompey Malta
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    08/08/2011 20:29:00

    Pompet Malta I agree with your sentiment entirely. There seem to be some really good players going on loan from top premier league clubs. We don't seem to be associated with any of them. One of the new owners said SC could sign players he needed, well why isn't he? Is he clueless, I don't think so, but he does seem to me to be a very narrow thinker. He has to get his finger out and start to get a grip. Because if he doesn't he will start trotting out the same old excuses he did last season. I said when he was appointed he starts off ok then runs out of steam, it's hs track record to date. I really hope he doesn't revert to type again.
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    09/08/2011 17:38:00


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