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Why be surprised?

If anyone can honestly put their hand on their heart and tell me that they did, or still do, expect Dave Nugent to still be a Pompey player next season then I would be surprised.

Lets face it the guy has to be on at least £20,000 p/w although I still feel it is nearer the £30,000, and I know this is a debate that has raged for ages, so with a need to shave off around 50% of that for a new contract it was/is never gonna happen, right?

Steve Cotterill has said, and he seems to take it quite personally, that he feels it will be a shame following all the time and effort that has been put in with him this season to, almost it seems from what he says, 'make him the player he has become' if he then upped sticks and left when his contract ends.

He 'might' be enjoying his football and he 'might' even be pretty happily settled into life with Portsmouth Football Club these days but what it ALL boils down to, for the vast majority of players these days, is money and if so much needs to be reduced from a current salary it is near on a dead certainty that he will go to another club that offers more.

To be honest, for all his work ethic and enthusiasm the ability that Nugent needs to be a regular at a 'decent' premier league clubs makes it unlikely that he would ever play for one, regularly at least, that will always be safely secured of a place in the top flight so a lower end side, 'probably' flirting with relegation most the time is where he would end up for me.

With all due respect to these clubs, the likes of Wigan, Blackpool and maybe Wolves - should any or all remain in the premier league - would be the ones that looked at him, then again how much would they pay him?

£10,000, maybe £15,000 tops?

So, not 'really' much more than we could or would I suspect but enough to make a difference, to him and an agent, plus he has the tag of being a 'premier league footballer' again.

'Perhaps' Nugent will still surprise me, well many of us, and opt to sign a new deal on reduced wages, although lets not start banking on it and instead of being overly concerned by it - as nothing can be said or done to change his mind if it is made up - lets, as GoldenBoot recently said in the forum, start looking at new options for next season ourselves.

If we look long and hard enough 'surely' we could find a striker as effective as Nugent, but on a much lesser wage and at a nominal, if not free, fee...

All of this said 'if' we can pull off, what would be a monumental achievement, a play-off spot and go back up again I would 'think' that his mind would soon change!

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Writer: pompeyrug

Date:Wednesday March 2 2011

Time: 4:09PM

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Rug, that's why the man is known as Potty Cottey. No one in their right mind believed Nugent would stay at the end of the season, being fair to Favid Nugent is on £26kpw. DL must tear his hair out at the managers pronouncements. It's simples if Nuge can get within the £10k - £15k per week ( I think the latter is the real figure) then that's great if not good luck and thanks for sticking around to give us some sort of minimal return on £6million.

russellm

Being fair to David Nugent here, he has always said he would stick around to the end of the season 1) because he felt that he was getting his confidence back and 2) because the club had asked him to do that thing. Nugent didn't answer Ollie's call and run for the wages and we can't deny his commitment since he made that decision. So I don't begrudge him what ever decision he makes, same way I don't begrudge the club for defending it's financial structure.

russellm

As the game last night showed Nuggett needs more chances for each goal than i believe is acceptable to a Prem team, and as for his control, dry pitch or not "he can trap it further than i can kick it" springs to mind. If he wants just to play football i think he will stay, if his agent says he is still homesick he will go, and probably to a relagated prem team from Up North

jimsmithswig

If we are not prepared to go anywhere with Brown, Hughes, etc, which I am not complaining about it does say something about our negotiating skill (DL). As such alas my friends how can he stay? Unless we somehow manage to pay him as much as DK, LLor even AM

MickTait

I still don't think he can cut it in the Premiership just yet. Fair enough, he scores goals if given enough chances, but realistically, how many chances is he going to get at the likes of Wolves or Wigan?

PompeyFrippy

Of course we just might get back to the Prem. via the play-offs (unlikely I know) and this would change the equation considerably. Mick Tait, not sure exactly what you are saying there. On the one hand you say you are not complaining about the Brown and Hughes situation but you then have a go at DL's negotiating skills and salary. If Brown and Hughes won't budge it's got nothing to do with negotiating skills and everything to do with money. The club would be mad to play either of them if it means having to pay them another years's worth of inflated salary. If I was them I'd rather take a pay cut and play football but obviously money is more important to them than football, so that's that isn't it?

Exgaffer

I think Brown and Hughes attitude is disgusting. After all, we aren't fighting for breadline money here. Its Shall I get the Ferrarri this year or next year type money. As someone who worked the day she was old enough to - 13, and had a fulltime and a part time job until I went into business, I feel ashamed for them, I really do. I hope Nugent stays, the reasoning above makes sense, so it is not as unlikely as all that, I don't think.

gandor1

Let's not get too hung up on Nugget. Ok he's scored some goals for us and I'm pleased but heh! prolific goal scorer he most certainly ain't, and he's costing. I think some Pompey supporters ought to sit down and watch a video of his misses, many clear cut guilt edged chances laid on a plate.... they'd be horrified. There are others out there who can do a job for us on wages we can afford.

cornypomp

That was watch a video of his "misses" by the way... not Mrs :-)

cornypomp

got to say i agree corny. nugent offers us alot with his work rate, effort and enthusiasm altho for the money he is on his goals return, from the chances he has, 'could' maybe even 'should' be better - there ARE players out there who would command far less and score, which strikers are judged on really, a better ratio from chances they get...
if the deal suits PFC then tie him down, problem is the deal that suits us will not suit him, unless we do go up again!

pompeyrug

Im with Frippy - if we go up we'll come straight back down again and its a big if anyway. And if we did go up and Nugent stayed I would hope there is a huge relegeation wage cut clause otherwise we'll end up in the same boat. Nugent wont stay.. but lets hope for a few more goals this season! Cotterill didnt make Hugent the player he is, the drop inb class did. He is a good div1 strker, thats it.

pompeyweller

Watford picked up Graham from Carlisle for peanuts, theyve got even less cash than us... there are players out there of better value in my opinion.

pompeyweller

I think all agree that Nugent with no first touch at all, is not a striker. I have a different view on the Hughes, Brown saga. While I agree that the current situation is far from acceptable, these guys were given contracts which caused this whole fiasco. The offer after so many appearances to extend and improve their existing contract was used by the club to help seal the original agreement. So I feel they are not totally responsible for the current situation. One must also remember that these Storrie contracts were issued at a time of financial turmoil, which in itself is more than suspect.

007

If we did return to the prem he could stay, but as others have said he is not of great premiership class, so it's another "catch 22" I feel.

pompeyyong

I'd like to see Nugent stay but am resigned to the fact he'll probably leave. As for him needing a lot of chances that goes for many strikers, Defoe missed a hell of lot more chances than he actually scored for us even when he was playing for Judas. But at least when Nugent isn't scoring he still works hard for the team there are many other strikers you can't say that about.

Steve C

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