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Lawrence on Brown and Hughes

To be honest I do not really know how much more can really be said about this issue, although it was interesting to read Liam Lawrence's take, with what he told The Mail, on things.

He is 'p***ed off' that the situation with Mikey Brown's and Richard Hughes' contracts cannot be resolved: 'I just wish the club would sort this out. I don't want the fans to think Browney and Hughesie are being greedy because they are not asking for mega money.

'They have offered to take massive pay cuts, not just 10 per cent or 20 per cent but 50 per cent cuts, but the club are not even speaking to them.

'They come down here every game, they are in the dressing room, they travel to away games and are a proper part of things yet they cannot play, they cannot do their jobs. It p***** me off.'

This is where is becomes confusing?

Hughesy has previously said that he had made the 50% pay cut offer but said he had not heard anything back from the club.

Now Lawro says that BOTH players have offered to take such a cut yet the club are not even speaking to them?

Only yesterday David Lampitt said that 'fair' offers had been made to the players, so which is it then?

Have 'fair offers' been made or have no offers been made at all?

Whatever is happening with this situation needs to be resolved quickly as the players seem to have good support from their teammates and their manager, this could quickly escalate into something nasty with conclusions being made about reasons behind no deals being struck...

'If' 50% cuts have been offered, but the club still will not accept this, God only knows what the players must have been on!

I guess it is also the fact that this, albeit reduced, wage would then become the case for another 12-months at least and 'perhaps' even 50% of the current salaries is still far too much?

My hopes are that the best thing for the club is what is happening here and an unwillingness to dish out new deals for these players, as much as they would benefit the club by staying, is because the wages would still - as said - be far above what we should be paying out, and getting this wage bill - which continues to be our Achilles heel - sorted out is a must.

I am sure that Steve Cotterill will not be 'unhappy' with Lawro going public with his thoughts although I am not so sure that Lampitt and Balram Chainrai would be as happy to hear such comments.

One thing that I think is, or at least I VERY MUCH hope will, become apparent is the club are no longer going to bow to demands and if this is not liked by players or manager, even if us fans might not like it either, really tough decision will be made without much hesitation - once again SO LONG as this is being done with the CLUBS best interests in mind and not as an asset stripping measure, then needs must and standing firm needs to be the case. Not doing this, and throwing money round here, there and everywhere is what got us into this trouble lets not forget...

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    Writer: pompeyrug Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

    Date:Wednesday January 5 2011

    Time: 8:47AM

    Your Comments

    The 'club's best interest' is a an ambiguous term. We should have been negotiating with them, not just making an offer. It has already cost up points.
    wellyit
    'They come down here every game, they are in the dressing room, they travel to away games and are a proper part of things yet they cannot play, they cannot do their jobs. It p***** me off.' Scuse me? Correct me if I'm wrong, but they are getting paid, aren't they? Sorry, Mr Lawrence, compared to what YOU are on they might not be seen to be greedy, but compared to what the club can afford, then the probably are.
    Gandor1
    Difficult one this as I can see both sides of the argument (without knowing what the offer is in cash terms!!!) but I agree with Gandor re Lawrence.
    PFCblue
    That's signed his 4M transfer out of PFC then!
    bluedr
    I might be wrong but from what I heard Hughes is on more than Lawrence is at the moment, another Storrie moment of genius. I like Hughes and think he's good to have in reserve but even at 50% of what he's on currently it's too much for a back up. Going for a 1/3 would probably be more realistic. In ours and his current situation.
    stooH
    LL has to my mind just become another clueless player who doesn't care where or how the money comes. Neither of the two players concerned are good enough to be on the rumoured " admittedly" 34-38k pw bracket- especially not Hughes. I also don't see many Prem teams beating down pompey's door for Brown, seems only a passing interest from Wolves and they don't look much like a next years PL fixture. Nope IMO the club cannot be blackmailed by players or the manager so if 10k p/w is not enough let em go! As for Lawrence, well you have to query his commitment to the club that thought tooth and nail against the Administrator to get him the contract he wanted and I would hope some disciplinary action is taken for his unprofessional outburst. I heard from in town last night the comments were made after a beer or two in an afternoon so may be a mitigating case for not getting caught drinking and drive-ling
    Russellm
    I wonder if this is part of a campaigne by the manager, highly risky if it is as it assumes a level of fans backing and I don't think he has the fans backing that he thinks he has.
    Russellm
    Rumours of a Wigan bid for Nugent surfacing?
    bluedr
    russ, i have to say that your way of thinking is much how i am basing my logic - and 'if' things are as they are 'meant' to be 'said' they are this is why i say that i am happy with whatever is decided 'IF IT IS IN THE CLUBS BEST INTERESTS'...
    it is easy to hear the words 50% cut offered and think deal, but it is when you sit down and think 50% of what? if it is the amounts being suggested for both then can we honestly say that we think, given our position, that hughesy is worth 12,500-15,000 per week and browny 15,000-17,500 per week, which is the 50% of what they are 'said' to be on...
    these are unrealistically sustainable costs and we need to get wages down closer to the 10,000 per week maximum that was being spoken of.
    pompeyrug
    Agree with you Rug, neither of these guys are worth more than 10K a week and if they are then another club will snap them up but I don't see that happening. Either way both need to be off of the payroll and replaced as soon as possible.
    bluedr
    I agree with the clubs stance here and Lawrence has gone down a bit in my estimation. Yes it's the players prerogative to ask for the money they think is reasonable, but it's the clubs prerogative to not cave in to unsustainable wage demands which would not provide value for money. If the players will not accept what is being offered then this was always going to end this way. I just hope Hughes and Brown do the decent thing and move on in this transfer window so we do not have to keep forking out 150k odd each month for no return whatsoever!
    pompeysloth
    It just goes to show how distorted and grotesque player's wages have become when we are conditioned into thinking that players on only 10K per week are not being all that well paid or particularly greedy. How long would it take the average poster to "earn" half a million quid?
    Emsworthianblue
    in recent years football in general has frustrated me. I am akin to a certain Ian Holloway in that "some complete person is recking football". Ok so lets go with the figures suggested as an example. Hughes is on 30k and brown is on 38k a week. now, footballers say all they want is to play regular first team football. so in that case. if our base wage is being capped at 10k a week then offer 10k a week. the difference on 50% would be 5k a week to hughes and 9k a week to brown. offer 20% of this as a win bonus, offer 20-30% of this as a bonus for reaching play offs and add the rest if we get promoted. yes these would be big bonuses IF we got promoted, this would come out of the sponsorship for reaching prem. a small price to pay in my opinion. and the added bonus that if the player really wants the money, they will play to WIN!! but, like our beloved government, when does common sense ever prevail when it comes to football!! as for lawrence, caution him, no other disciplinary action required.
    pompey--pessimist
    this of course is entirely hypothetical and we are all guessing pompeys finances. i know we will never see it but id like to see a recent P+L account to see if we are self sufficient and if not how much out we are.
    pompey--pessimist
     

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