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Stadium Investigation (Part Two)
Stadium Investigation Two
What Now?
(03.03.06) Milan laughs of the suggestion of the stadium not happening.
After much frustration regarding apparent "documentations" Portsmouth chairmen Milan Mandaric told fans that we where a step closer.
Milan said, "We are making good progress and the further documentation is further evidence of this."
Apparently the majority of clearances from the council have now been received but there are still, "one or two outstanding issues."
Originally all demolition work should have been completed by now. Two of the stands should have been underway and Pompey village should have been developing nicely.
The pitch should have been turning round during the summer. This will now happen in 2007. The reason given for this is because if we where to do it this summer we would be playing much of the season in a 13,000 seater stadium. I don`t understand why we won`t be playing in a 13,000 seater stadium next year?
It looks likely that we will have a finished stadium at the beginning of 2008. I`m unconvinced though because what`s going to happen at the beginning of the 2007/08 season?
I think that the likely thing is we will have a new stadium for the 2008/2009 season. Although, I don`t expect Pompey Village to be ready until 2010, at the earliest.
I got in touch with someone at the council who told me, "There where a couple of things outstanding but I think they have been agreed in principle." Although this person isn`t working on the Pompey village and stadium development they did go on to let something slip. I may be reading too much into it but I will leave it for the final article. It is the mother of all rumours!!
In Stadium Investigation Three- We speak to Peter Storrie, putting some key questions to him. He will also be giving Vital Pompey an exclusive update. We also got in touch with the people in charge of designing and building the Stadium. Just to check that Portsmouth`s story matches there`s.
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As I said it part 1. This is becoming more long winded than the spinnaker tower.
POMPEYMEV
Les Matthews, you really are a numbskull blattering on about things you don't understand.
Speculating about transfers is one thing but this? Let me tell you as someone who has been involved in the project management of multi-million pound capital builds that the delays have little to do with conspiracy. Incompetent project management however - yes.
The first two delays to the schedule of works was understandable, the third delay when work was postponed from the summer of 2005 was due to the club not fulfilling planning conditions said to me that the project wasn't being managed properly.
However the current schedule of works if started by August/September would mean a 90 degree turning of the pitch in the summer of 2007. By then the new North Stand would be completed, temporary seating can be placed on the Milton side (anything upto 3,000) whilst the extention to the Fratton Stand is completed and you would still have two-thirds of the South Stand.
That gives you a workable capacity in the region of 19,000+, not brilliant but workable.
LiT
In the final article "Investigation 25" Milan will announce in 2015 that he has run out of dosh and won't after all build the stadium. lol
nelson
im afraid the stadium issue has been a major concern to me, if the stadium is not started by september this year pompey will have to reapply for planning permission, as for satisfying the local authorities issues the planning has not just been approved in principle it has been approved, so regardless of the hurdles that the puppet man storrie thinks he has to overcome the end result will be the same no stadium come wise up pompey fans 657 oldon
maddison
so lit and your little milan fan club you will be dissapointed
maddison
just one more thing les contact barr construction and find out what their take is over this
maddison
maddison - planning approval was subject to fulfilling planning conditions. Thats not the same thing as "in principle". If you had any knowledge of the planning system or had been involved in serious projects, you would know this. Your ignorance is evident.
LiT
LiT shut up! Barr have refused to comment and the major hold ups are on the stadium. (see investigation 4)
lmatthews
see investigation 3 sorry
lmatthews
Les cant even get 3 or 4 right in his mind. And the comment "Shut up Liut"... well as the Main Reporter on this site, youve just shown your true colours. Grow up Les, stop pushing your own views on this site, and be impartial. you have a man here who works in that field, giving you 100% factual points and you STILL argue it. Pathetic, absolutely pathetic. And Les you should be ashamed and embarrased for that outburst. Disgraceful.
Knobber
There are strange forces at work in PompeyLand for examples, see above... "Liut"?
As for the rest...
Hoddlesleftnut
OK OK LIT... lol
is that better huddlesleftknot
Knobber
well lit or should i call you mr storrie, its quite simple why will it have taken three years this september for the club to get a contractor to lay any foundation, ill tell you why its because of you and a minority of ignorant fans who cannot see whats under your nose, our argument is based on facts whats yours based on oh i know, hearsay and as for slagging les, the man gets *****ed of with idiots like you who claim to know all there is to know but are only guessing. the reason pompey have not started the ground is that they cannot afford to do so
maddison
THANK YOU MADDISON!!!
lmatthews
maddison - it really is entertaining to be called Mr Storrie. If you bother to read my first post, you will read that I call the club incompetent. This project has been mismanaged. There are numerous factors involved in this for which financing has been one of them. Barr however are merely the contractors, information & publicity management is the responsibility of the client: namely Portsmouth Football Club. It isn't Barr's responsibility to comment on the current status so extrapolating as Les does is ridiculous but hardly surprising given his track record.
LiT
look i didn't say anywhere they should have commented! That's up to them they don't have to remark and they didn't boohooo. My point is with you saying i lied, how the ***** would you know that?
lmatthews
look i didn't say anywhere they should have commented! That's up to them they don't have to remark and they didn't boohooo. My point is with you saying i lied, how the ***** would you know that?
lmatthews
sorry it was knobber that said i made it up. You said i don't know what i'm on about! WOW you are right i don't work for Barr or Portsmouth so i don't! I don't think you work for either of them, so u don't either!
lmatthews
lit, you are not grasping the facts, if you say the project is being mismanaged then it is my understanding that peter storrie is the person whom should be held responsible because he is the chief executive, hope you know what that means, yes he makes the decisions on behalf of the chairman, so if storrie has appointed a mickey mouse project manager then im afraid to say why has it taken almost three years to get the project of the ******* ground, so stick that in your public school pipe and smoke it or are you living on a council estate. play up les
maddison
one more point lit, i was a the pr stunt that manderic and his puppets put on for the supporters when he jumped in the bulldozer and started demolition of the old bt building, where you there i doubt it, im a real fan and live in hope that what we are told by the club is going to actually happen, and in the news again milan is considering walking away, well good he can take the liar storrie with him, sasha will take full control of the club and for one reason to make money but at least the man has the cloat to do so instead of a chairman and puppet feeding the supporters crap all the time. are you by any chance organising the statue of milan, thats gone quiet ha ha ha, people do not believe manderic anymore FACT !
maddison
Les, try to follow the thread of what being posted. I didn't say you were lying. What I said was that you were jumping to conclusions based on limited knowledge. What I do have Les is a number of years involved in project management, including a little while back, working for the organisation who helped PFC develop the Pompey Village concept. So I have some background knowledge and also, having been through the planning process with a few multi-million projects, I know the pitfalls of project managing. This means I can make an assessment based on experience. Whereas your record on here is what exactly?
LiT
maddison, thats just inarticulate ramblings from you. Its taken over three years to get the project off the ground because of the mismanagement. QED.
LiT
LOL @ maddison. You're a real fan so you know what is going on!?! LOL!
PompeyRuleOK
Les, did you learn your debating technique at journo school or in the playground?
PompeyRuleOK
Who really gives a flying F**K ??? If/when it gets built, it will get built. If/when it isn't, it won't be. There is absolutely nothing that any of us can do about it, so why waste breath even talking about it?
FEn_100
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