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Lawrence deal in doubt?

It would not be Pompey if there was not some 'doubt' about a deal would it?

Well, today has seen some doubt raised about Liam Lawrence's deadline day move to Pompey...

According to The Stoke Sentinel this deal went through AFTER the deadline: 'it is believed that Portsmouth lodged the paperwork for his transfer 15 minutes too late for it to be registered by the FA and Premier League.

'Discussions are still taking place between Portsmouth and football's top brass to find a loophole.'

I would say, and not playing the whole 'the world is against us' card - as can often be played, 'if' there is any doubt about this deal then 'little' slack will be given even though it seems clubs like Arsenal and Spurs, 'the bigger clubs', can sign players WELL after the deadline - several days in the case of Arsenal with Arshavin - and get away with 'technicalities'...

Although technicalities and incompetence are different things, and 'if' it was Portsmouth Football Club incompetence, as has often been the case in the past, then what can you do.

The local Stoke paper went on to say that we had a 'plan B' in place, although that will prove tricky to get round too: 'Portsmouth's plan B is thought to be an attempt to sign Lawrence on loan ahead of a permanent move when the transfer window re-opens in January.

'But there is a limit of two loan players from the same parent club and Pompey already have Stoke duo Ibrahima Sonko and Carl Dickinson on their books.'

As The Sentinel also said it would be 'an embarrassment to those dealing with the transfer at the Portsmouth end', that said I guess we are almost getting used to this are we not? And that - like an apparent acceptance of defeat in the players' mind - is becoming the norm and anything other is 'unusual!'

All we can do now is keep our fingers crossed and hope that 'reports' that are surfacing are not that accurate, although the fact that we have not 'officially', as such, had Lawrence confirmed is itself a bit of a worry...

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  • The Journalist

    Writer: pompeyrug Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

    Date:Tuesday September 7 2010

    Time: 9:49AM

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    This is a proper joke. The deal was on the table for at least a week before the end of the transfer window, so why leave until the very last minute to get the paperwork in!

    Surely though we could also claim 'technical problems' like Spuds did with the RVDV signing? Oh, I forgot. They are a big Premier league club so the rules don't count.

    sneakay
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    07/09/2010 10:09:00

    Surely the paperwork can only be submitted when all the signatures are present, and LL didn't agree until the last minute, hardly ''an embarrassment to those dealing with the transfer at the Portsmouth end". Also Tommy Smiths deal has still not been signed off by the authorities. Happy days. PUP
    NorfolknBlue
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    07/09/2010 10:47:00

    Sorry, my sympathy for Pompey has run out. The excuse given is that he was training with the RoI squad - so why didn't somebody fly over to get his signature?
    PFCblue
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    07/09/2010 11:09:00

    Oh dear.....
    gandor1
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    07/09/2010 12:44:00

    actually arent we being a bit harsh - practically EVERYONE, including LL himself said that he left it until the last moment to be convinced to leave Stoke - now i have no problem with that as he loves the club and loyalty to Stoke over a club he hasnt joined yet to me is a good thing - but given that - is it no wonder we might have been late??? Are we not a bit too quick on the depression negativity here? I'd be gutted if he didnt show up here now - I have high hopes for him - but I'm not goign to get ont he clubs back about it... if other clubs with huge teams of people and budgets can fudge it and be late so can we... surely the argument that he was on international duty holds some water?
    jim4pompey
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    07/09/2010 13:04:00

    So, should he go on loan until a permanent move in January, does that mean a fee has to be paid for the loan and then to make it permanent or will that be waived and he will then join up as part payment for Wilson as first agreed, as after all he was part of the Wilson deal!!
    dazza0410
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    07/09/2010 13:13:00

    Seems a bit of a shambles, the club know the rules. Surely the Nugent / Blackpool saga must have rung some bells.
    russellm
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    07/09/2010 13:35:00

    Yes we are used to this sort of thing, but it still rankles !!!
    BarneyArmy
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    07/09/2010 13:39:00

    does that not invalidate the wilson deal? or does that mean lawrence is our player but he is ineligible to play?
    pompey--pessimist
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    07/09/2010 14:49:00

    Just to say its is now confirmed on the BBC site. Typical of the last 6 months isn't it this.
    PompeyJake
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    07/09/2010 16:19:00

    Just to say its is now confirmed on the BBC site. Typical of the last 6 months isn't it this.
    PompeyJake
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    07/09/2010 16:20:00

    The tradegy just rolls on. But as Admin Andy said if we were Spurs we would be allowed to 'sort it out the next day'!
    eastneydave
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    07/09/2010 16:32:00

    exactly Dave... look at AA's comments... it's bl**dy brinkmanship on the part fot he regualting authotities. One thing to keep in mind is that may be we will have to be whiter than white to prevent the usual cat calls if we're given ANY special treatment... not only is it "pompey" but one of the old boys of the is our chief exec and he'll be accused of pulling in favors
    jim4pompey
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    07/09/2010 16:36:00

    hahaha Tommy smiths transfer was also too late. he is still with us!!!
    PompeyJake
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    07/09/2010 18:05:00

    I suppose we will have to give Sonko back to the Potters in order that we do not break the " Only 2 players loaned from the same club rule"...would'nt be such a bad thing maybe
    plymouth graham
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    07/09/2010 18:08:00

    Well rules are rules after all aren't they, and they have to be applied fairly and consistently. Except they're not are they - otherwise Arry wouldn't have Van der Vaart. Its just one thing after another though with Pompey isn't it. I like Graham's idea of sending back Sonko so we only have 2 Stoke players on loan!
    tracyc
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    07/09/2010 18:40:00

    also i remember last year arshavin signed for arsenal a week after the deadline because it was snowing in russia or something just because its a big well know club and player they say its ok... why dont stoke just cancel his contract then we sign him on a free thats what we are doing anyway isnt it ?/ as part of the wilson deal??
    pompeyhussler
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    07/09/2010 18:55:00

    isnt the rule that you can only loan two players from a club in one season. just because you send one player back prematurely doesnt alter the fact he used a loan space from stoke? i.e. we have used the two from stoke now thats it?
    pompey--pessimist
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    07/09/2010 20:32:00

    if LL breaks his leg or turns out to be crap can we give him back and ask for more money? Or a different player... keep trying to we get one that fits?
    jim4pompey
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    08/09/2010 11:13:00

    Definitive words from NEWS - so long as it pans out that is: http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/frattonlatest/Green-light-for-Lawrence-loan.6519104.jp?
    jim4pompey
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    08/09/2010 11:46:00

     

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