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Gay Players...Appreciated or Unwelcome?

Gay Players...Appreciated or Unwelcome?

I got an email from a Pompey friend of mine from the FSF, not Ken this time, on this issue on Thursday night so when Vital Towers send out an email to all eds on Friday this as well - as J has been contacted too - it just seemed right to add:

I am carrying out an anonymous survey on fans' views towards gay football players.

This is in response to the Premier League dropping a campaign on this issue and Max Clifford claiming that 'football is steeped in homophobia'.

We want to assess how fans feel about this. Our pilot data was published in The Observer on Sunday and discussed again on The Nolan show on Radio 5Live on Sunday evening and BBC Radio Leeds and Stoke this week.

The address is: and the site is being managed by Staffordshire University.

If you could keep the article comments respectful it would be appreciated!!! Now what image do I use?!


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Date:Saturday June 5 2010
Time: 10:37AM


i do not give a rats if a player is straight or gay, nor do i care what race or colour they are so long as they do the business for pompey! players are given the same amount of backing, or stick, from me regardless of their sexual orientation - not that we know if players are gay or not - or colours etc.
05/06/2010 10:41:00
What about listing the Pompey players who we think are gay!!!
05/06/2010 10:50:00
it is surely the final taboo in the game, and although I agree 100% that it makes absolutely no difference to me over the colour or sexual orientation of a player, there is still a minority of fans who would make it very tough for a player to be openly gay, similarly in the dressing room. I think it would take a very brave player to openly state he is gay, but until they do it will always be something we know is there, but dismiss as not being in the game.
05/06/2010 11:16:00
In this day and age it shouldn't make any difference, in fact its completely unacceptable for anyone to face homophobia in their workplace, just as it is for racism. Yet there are no openly gay footballers. I do not believe there are no gay footballers, that's ridiculous. The only one who ever 'came out' was Justin Fashanu, and that ended in his tragic suicide. It seems as though since then, they've all been afraid to, and I suppose the fear is a cominbation of dressing room banter, fan chants and the press. What can be done to change it? No idea. Perhaps if a number of them bit the bullet and 'came out' around the same time. . .
05/06/2010 12:01:00
Only one I remember for Pompey was Scott McGarvey, if they play like him keep them! If they can score goals I also couldn't give a flying donald duck
05/06/2010 12:27:00
A discussion that is well overdue. If a Pompey player ever came out, I think I'd be pretty proud of them. It's got to be so difficult to do in that kind of environment. It will take a handful of brave blokes to come forward/out in order to change the way things are - but I'd welcome a change that saw a more tolerant game. The racism thing is still not completely ironed out. I've seen/heard enough embarrassing racist displays from some idiot Pompey fans and have even challenged someone on it before at a game. Idiots that probably haven't ever left Portsea island - but I imagine it must be a world away from the racism of the 70s/80s.
05/06/2010 12:33:00
Does't bother me whether they're gay, straight or chinese. I can see why they might not 'come out' whilst in their playing years (given the abuse that supporters throw out) but I am suprised by the lack of openly gay ex-pros.
05/06/2010 12:39:00
I would go one futher than this..and I see no real reason why Woman( Gay or straight, Black white or any other tag) can not compete in Pro football...The argument that woman are too small/weak just does not wear with mre one iota... There have been plenty of diminutive but highly combative blokes ( Kellard, kennedy O'Hara at FP, and others away from our mob such as Wisey and that really diddy ex Burnley and Wales chap brian something or other
plymouth graham
05/06/2010 13:18:00
I agree with a lot of what's been said, not really sure a players sexuality really matters, its what happens on the pitch that counts. Did the survey... the fans question.... We'd support a player from our team and give hell to a player from an opposition team...but that's normal, it could be the colour of the opposition players's hair, his habits with other players girlfriends. Its just another thing to try and intimidate the player. That's all fair. the gordon taylor question... Gordon Taylor does not have my respect, don't think he talks sense at the best of times, so have no opinion on what he says. Its is the home crowds prerogative to be abusive and intimidate the away team, being gay is irrelevant. It is for the away supporters to respond and support their team. Remember football is about tribalism and passion, not eating prawn sandwiches and watching some nice pretty footwork (although good to watch) and giving a gentle clap. It is the football organisations and the money men who want to turn football into PC banality, so that it sells well overseas, not so that the local team gets the unbridled support of the local community. Max Clifford question.... Too much money in the game if the players can afford to go to Max Clifford. There is more a problem of a multitude of different cultures and their attitude to gay players would be more my thoughts. It's in Max Cliffords interest to maintain the status quo. Outside the top leagues in the game I doubt anyone really cares, there maybe some Sunday league teams which will 'kick' known gay players, but I don't think that it is indicative of the whole of the football played there. Those teams that do often tend towards a more violent style of play anyway, where taking people out of the game is the objective as well as scoring goals. essentially the football teams outside the top leagues just reflect the cross section of society...nothing new really.
Fratton del Sol
05/06/2010 13:33:00
Does anyone think, Duggie Reid, Dave Mackay, Billy Bremner or Norman Hunter were gay?
05/06/2010 13:57:00
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