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Typical, just typical!

I thought it was too good to be true!

Players returning from injury, meaning the number of 'potential' options available to Avram Grant giving him a selection headache of a GOOD kind for once - not something that can be said has been the case for sometime...

Yet, as has happened SO many times this season ahead of a 'crucial game', or in other cases just AFTER a 'vital win' to set us back again, we get more BAD news that rocks us ahead of Sunday's semi final!

Admin Andy has had PLENTY to say to in general to the media since he came in, with a good helping given to ESPN Soccernet now.

Basically it seems that up to half a dozen players 'could' be playing their last game for Pompey this weekend, win or lose this semi, in fact one player might not even be available at all for 'non-footballing' reasons because of 'contractual obligations' to these players...

Should these unnamed players play at Wembley they cannot turn out again for us - unless they 'waive' these clauses - as they will earn new deals or large 'bonus payments', with one 'key player' not be able to play at all unless an agreement can be reached!

This is what Admin Andy told Soccernet, although 'naming names' was not something he would do: 'it is a private matter, and far too sensitive to name the players concerned.

'This affects five or six players who will not be allowed to play after the semi-final, and one who might not be allowed to play in the semi-final.

'This all revolves around clauses in their current contracts which mean that the semi-final triggers a set number of games that either means the player is entitled, automatically, to have his contract renewed for next season, or that it triggers a variety of cash payments ranging from £100,000 to £50,000.'

Should that not be £50,000-£100,000? Unless it should be £100,000-£500,000? That would be frightening?!

Anyway, he continued: 'so, if a player plays at Wembley he would trigger a new contract the club cannot afford, or if he reaches 20 or 25 games, it triggers cash payments, some of £100,000. These bullet payments means that they can play in the semi-final, but not play another game after it, unless they waiver those payments.

'That would be tragic for the player if the team are in the final, but it will be the players', or their agents', decisions. They are going to have to forfeit those contractual obligations or they cannot play again.

'As the club is in administration and as the administrator, I am not in a position to allow these payments or indeed to allow the players to automatically renew their contracts for next season.'

I am NOT having a pop at Admin Andy - although it is funny that it was not a 'private' enough matter to prevent pressure being applied in the public eye though, this is NOT his fault and we DO have to understand where he is coming from.

As a club we cannot allow high earners to 'automatically trigger' new contracts, nor can 'bonus payments' be justified, as a club in admin just cannot make these types of payments...

All in all it comes down to those doing these deals in the first place - 'if' any fresh clauses have been drawn up in the past 12-18-months then this is just criminal as we have been a club crippled with debt for several years now!

There was a 'silver lining' though, he does think that we might get one last bit of 'flexibility' from these players: 'if you're asking my opinion, I am sure there will be a great deal of flexibility from the lawyers. The players have made enormous sacrifices for this club and their team already. They have been supportive of the club's crisis and they have been prepared to help as much as they can. Perhaps they will help one more time, but we shall have to wait and see.'

As said we cannot make these payments, or hand our new deals - at least not on current terms, although we WILL need players next season so could we not propose honouring any of these new contracts, should they be triggered, but on a 50% reduction of their wages?

This way players get the security of having a club, we have the security of having some players next season AND keep some form of continuity about the club too...

'If' these players do play and then 'if' we do beat Spurs then we will find out just how much playing football means to them as opposed to earning money, right?

Again I am NOT having a pop, this time at these players, they WERE offered these deals but if money meant more than a 'potential' FA cup final then this answers any questions you could put to them really...

At the same time I would 'hope' that they would not only waive these clauses for 'one last hurrah', that hurrah being a 'possible' FA cup final, but forfeit them for the final league games in-between as well, as these still mean something to us!

If it is not one thing with Pompey this season it is another...

Although I guess at the end of the day this issue, bar the one 'key player' is something to 'worry about more' AFTER the semi final, which is someways does beg the question: 'why not have waited until AFTER the semi to spring it on us?'


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Writer: pompeyrug Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Friday April 9 2010

Time: 9:45AM

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After the last fiasco you would think Storrie would have learnt his lesson handing out Cup bonusses. Wonder how much he had contracted in for himself?
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09/04/2010 10:07:00

I wonder how much of a "football related bonus" storrie will get? Thus is just another example of the stupidity of the storrie, gaydamak, redknapp era. The admin cannot permit these to be paid, it would kill off the CVA and we would get a points deduction. I hope AA is right and the players show flexibility;i guess the usual will follow and some Pompey fans will blame chanrai for what clearly isn't his fault- then they will ask chanrai for money.
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09/04/2010 10:30:00

Don't let it affect our spirit ... The players and club would have known about this the day after we beat Birmingham .. It can hardly be (new) news two days before the semi..
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09/04/2010 10:36:00

I totally agree chix. The players are not stupid, they have agents who knows things and advice them accordingly.
Pompey Malta
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09/04/2010 11:17:00

Why did this have to be made public now? Why not wait until after the semi. I really don't get what it is supposed to achieve by 'going to the press' with it at this point.
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09/04/2010 11:18:00

Good point sneakay. Storrie and his "so called contracts", its beyond belief. How did he think that we could ever survive his contracts and agreements in the short term let alone in the fullness of time. Its looking more like a planned assassination as every day passes.
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09/04/2010 11:48:00

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09/04/2010 12:03:00

all in all, as said at the end of the article this is not - in many ways - something to worry about 'too much' until after sunday, then we will find out more about what means more to the players but do ALSO think that this would have been better off coming out after the WIN on sunday, even if it would have brought us down abit...
bringing it into the public eye puts more pressure on the players to 'do the right thing' doesnt it?

russ HOW can anyone blame chainrai for this? i have, and will, blame him for lots of things but not this - altho he will not 'give us' anymore money will he, 'loan' perhaps on a decent interest but not give as he has not 'given' us, nor would many - if any - to be fair, anything yet has he!
and i for one WOULD NOT want to ask him for anything. still think the guy is a wrong 'un like many of those before him and do fear him taking control.
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09/04/2010 12:13:00

If, and it's a big if, we made the final, would these half dozen players be available for that? I can cope with settling to field youths in the PL now as (and I don't want to sound pessimistic) we might not survive, just like pigs might not sprout wings and soar majestically through the sky.
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09/04/2010 12:20:00

It is almost impossible to believe that after all the details that have come up over the last 6 months or so, about the behind the scenes management, that we have learnt nothing. We continue to shoot ourselves in the foot by revealing the hapless mis-mangement conducted by messers Storrie and co. for all the world to see. There were some of you earlier this week saying how mercenary some of our players were i.e. Boateng,et al. and that they didn't deserve to play on Sunday. I wonder if these clauses relate to any of them, because if they do don't bloody play them. I'd rathers have some of the youth team playing their hearts out, despite Tracy's reservations, then at least we will know they are there for footballing reasons. When we do win on Sunday, that will sort out the money grabbers from the honour bound. Jammo, waived some clauses in his contract, the others if they get the chance to play in the Final at Wembley should do the same.
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09/04/2010 17:01:00

Sorry Tracy I mean't Frippy.
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09/04/2010 17:03:00

How the hell are fans supposed to get on with simply being fans. I know pomey fans can manage the simple bit easily enough, but really. :-) You guys deserve a lot more and I hope you get some on sunday with a big, big win. Nobody can begrudge the fan his moment of relief(girls as well). Mike 1954 if the players are in the team and they get to Wembley for the final, what is the betting that they think Wembley worth losing a clause or two?
SFC Forever
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09/04/2010 18:44:00

I read somewhere this morning (can't find it now) that it was Kanu, Utaka, Ashdown, Diop & Hughes, although this article also said it was the semi that this related to. I agree this should either have been made public a while ago - or kept stum until after the semi, releasing it now doesn't help the build up does it? Perhaps Admin Andy is doing it on purpose because we can't afford to win the cup. As for playing the kids, I love the idea, but is it fair for a youngster if their first ever senior outing is at Wembley? Would be nice to win this semi, but not at the expense of young players careers. Perhaps we should have taken the opportunity of playing them in a few prem games before now - but we didn't.
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10/04/2010 08:36:00

Can't afford this, but we can afford a new CEO..... Strange!!
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10/04/2010 09:32:00


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