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Back in the dock

Well here we are guys, back in court with this about to kick-off any time now...

Justice Alastair Norris is overlooking events with two cases listed against us in the high court today - they are:

1) HMRC versus Portsmouth City Football Club Ltd
2) Grosvenor Basingstoke Properties Ltd versus Portsmouth City Football Club Ltd.

These are the pair that had applied for the winding up order back along.

Now we play the 'waiting game', in the meantime there will be updates as provided by sky sports news and The News...

UPDATE - 11am(ish)

HMRC's Gregory Mitchell questioned the validity of our administration...

They want proof of transactions between owners to ensure that Balram Chainrai was our owner and able to put us into this?

Is the administrator, Admin Andy, independent, or is he working on behalf of someone within the club?

Is administration something that we have a chance of coming out of? We need to find 7m before end of month, another 14m by the end of May - where is money coming from?

Customs say that everything about the club is 'shrouded in mystery'...

UPDATE - 11.20ish(ish)

HMRC wants a FULL INVESTIGATION into the clubs transfers.

Admin Andy says that he will sell Fratton Park to Chainrai for 10m and then rent it back from him for 1.2m per season.

Debt stands at 65m, which includes the value of the players. Without them it would be 86m - players valued at 21m, despite Peter Storrie valuing them at 38m!

UPDATE - 12noon(ish)

Customs are pushing for a fresh winding-up date on 8th March.

In the clubs defence, from Simon Barker QC, it is said Portpin Ltd say they are making 15m available to Admin Andy for the running of the club - which should be enough.

If the appointment of the administrator in place is challenged there would be an application for a court appointed administrator - would this not have been better anyway?

UPDATE - 12.40(ish)

Barker questions customs' 'claims' of Admin Andy's 'independence' and feels that he should basically be allowed to just 'get on with his job' and not hindered as he is - then again I guess if Chainrai's company Portpin Ltd are funding him how 'independent' is he?

HMRC do not think that the money provided to fund our administration is enough but ultimately there is no proof of this funding being there anyway, this is merely being done on what is basically a 'promise'...

UPDATE - 12.55(ish)

The Judge has said 'there is a shadow over the administration that must be removed.'

It would appear that we have only provided a promise of funding on paper, so this would explain his words that 'there was a prospect but no more than a prospect that funding for administration is available'.

Squeaky bum time...

UPDATE - 13.00(ish)

Basically cased adjourned, well it is case adjourned...

The Judge does not seem happy that the 'promise' of money being there for the costs of administration is good enough, and is not confident in this.

A new hearing will take place on March 15, but in the meantime Portpin Ltd MUST provide documents of the money they have lent Pompey and the money Pompey has paid Portpin Ltd and/or Chainrai - this documentation MUST be with him by March 12th.

PLAY UP POMPEY!


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Writer: pompeyrug Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday March 2 2010

Time: 10:30AM

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Cross everything.
stooH
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02/03/2010 10:41:00

Fckin Witch Hunt. Hopefully the judge will see we are looking to sort the mess out & the taxman wants more than his pound of flesh. Surely they would get more with us in admin than not in business at all?!!!!
storagematt
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02/03/2010 10:47:00

I think the Revenue want to set aside the rules that say that "football creditors" get priority over them. As a taxpayer I can see their point. Why should Sol Campbell get preference over the taxes needed to pay for hospitals, schools, aircraft carriers etc? I fervently hope that the HMRC challenge fails, but the football authorities need to put their house in order.
erithacus rubecula
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02/03/2010 10:55:00

The Grosvenor case is just a bolt on, they are just hanging around HMRC on the off chance of getting some crumbs. Grovesnor are probably subsidizing legal costs they have no power to object to a CVA so I guess the tax man wants them around as grovesnor are the duke of Westminster and that might influence a judge who wants to get on in the establishment.
russellm
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02/03/2010 10:58:00

GULP...
pompeyrug
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02/03/2010 11:07:00

Is that an 'uh-oh something has just happened' gulp or are you just coming up for air, rug?
wellyit
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02/03/2010 11:13:00

a 'gulp' at the turn of events so far...in all honesty i think fair questions are being asked, and also in all honesty can we give answers - especially to the 'money we need to find' questions that will please all?
pompeyrug
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02/03/2010 11:15:00

7 million a month.....thats alot
ruffcider
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02/03/2010 11:17:00

Double Gulp! I also question the validity of Admin Andy, so if I, as a loyal Pompey Supporter am wary of this administrator, I don't blame the HMRC for looking a tad sceptical!!! FFS, All I want is an independent administrator to come in and clear this lot up, ONCE AND FOR ALL.
BarneyArmy
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02/03/2010 11:19:00

treble gulp now - not looking anywhere near as rosey as was portrayed is it?
who's best interest is admin andy working on...
pompeyrug
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02/03/2010 11:27:00

7M a Month???? Does that mean we're gonna start paying our tax !!!!! Give the Tax man a PFC Credit card with no limit......then charge him 27% APR :-)
BarneyArmy
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02/03/2010 11:32:00

it said on ssn 7 million for the next 2 months....as in each, as in 14m
ruffcider
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02/03/2010 11:40:00

Chainrai and then PFC Rug.
PFCblue
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02/03/2010 11:42:00

So if we get 10M from Chanrai does that come off the 65M owed or has this already been taking account of?
bluedr
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02/03/2010 11:45:00

21M, so the players are worth about the same as Rooneys left leg!
bluedr
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02/03/2010 11:47:00

10m from Chanrai for Fratton Park leaving no tangible assets belonging to the club and still a gap of 4m to find JUST TO RUN TO THE END OF APRIL! Not looking great and you can see why the HMRC are p**ssed with the Admin. Chanrai looking after himself by the looks of it, and appoints an Admin to be his puppet?!
MorningtonCrescent
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02/03/2010 11:50:00

I would assume Chanrai would write off 10m of our debt to him in exchange for Fp and then screw us eaxh year with an increase in rent, so the 14m would still be due
jimsmithswig
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02/03/2010 11:54:00

If HMRC want a full investigation of all transfers then I bet Storrie and Redknapp are starting to feel uncomfortable!
bluedr
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02/03/2010 11:57:00

You could have hit something there blue. Could this be part of the reason that they are being like a dog with a bone?
gandor1
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02/03/2010 12:01:00

An investigation would indicate that we'll still have some life in us, no?
PFCblue
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02/03/2010 12:17:00

Sorry to sound thick, but what do HMRC hope to achieve today? Is it just a case of challenging AA's impartiality, or are they challenging our right to be in administration?
PFCblue
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02/03/2010 12:24:00

we are screwed
SUAC51
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02/03/2010 12:25:00

Sorry Rug just re-read your article and see the answer is the validity of administration.
PFCblue
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02/03/2010 12:27:00

Judge is saying Put up or shut up Chanrai by the sounds of it.
bluedr
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02/03/2010 13:02:00

2 weeks stay of execution.
PFCblue
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02/03/2010 13:15:00

 

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