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I think you hit the nail on the head?

Mark Jacob has today told The News that he, and the owners were hurt by the recent protests from Pompey fans.

To be honest I do agree with elements, as they were not really very productive, although at the same time with him having previously been in the position of those protesting, when doing so as a Spurs fan, he should have some idea of why this is being done and cannot really complain too much can he. He SHOULD be able to see it from our point of view as well, which to be fair he did later on say to a degree...

His following thoughts, for me, pretty much sum up WHY there are protests: 'at the Arsenal game, there were chants which left Ahmed Al Faraj (the brother of Ali Al Faraj) - who watched the game on the Internet - most upset.

'Mr Al Faraj feels supporters do not see - or haven't been told perhaps - what has happened since October and it was like a pressure cooker that had suddenly exploded. Then there was the protest after the Coventry game.

'Quite clearly that is the supporters' prerogative, but I was most upset and disappointed.

'I sincerely hope that does not happen again given the strides this club has achieved over the last few months.'

That is exactly the issue Mark we HAVE NOT, until now to be fair, really been told ANYTHING about what is/was going on so!

So, if you are told little, or nothing, and it does not look like much, if anything is happening the obvious assumption is that nothing is actually happening...Which 'might' not have been the case?

With the talking to fans now starting, and lets hope that we continue to hear this, we now need to also see some actions to follow...

I agree that the chats of 'you can stick you Arabs up your arse', 'sack the board' and basically - and not very politely - asking them to 'leave' was probably uncalled for and, for me, was not very productive. Asking for answers to questions is what was needed but my worry is that more outbursts like that and anything that actually is being done could be undone as what happens if they do think 'sod it, we are off?'

Jacob did go on to add that he can 'sympathise with the supporters' but assures us that things are progressing: 'I can sympathise with supporters and I can understand their frustrations, but they have to realise the perilous state the club was in October 2009.

'They have got to appreciate the huge strides we have made since to stabilise the club, to get us into the position now where we have a fighting chance to survive in the Premier League and to move on.

'Quite clearly, had Mr Al Faraj not taken over when he did, the club would have suffered a points reduction because administration would have been on the cards.

'With a points deduction - given the points we have got at the moment - I defy anyone to believe the club would then have survived.'

He claims that around 40m has been generated into PFC since the takeover and 'positive' moves for the 'long-term future' are happening with him 'very, very' sure that we will be out of our 'predicament very, very shortly': 'altogether, if you look at the funds that have been generated into the club since October, you are looking at approximately 40million.

'What we are doing now at the club is something positive and for the long-term future.

'We are very, very positive that we will be out of this predicament very, very shortly.'

People have called for communication, we are now getting plenty of this and to be fair the more than comes the more positive it becomes, right?

Yep actions speak louder than words of course, and we DO need actions to follow, but do we not now owe these guys the chance to prove that they can show the actions to follow these words now that they have started to come?

I wonder if this latest protest march will go ahead - and would actually question if it should as if it does what would the repercussions of this be?

So, perhaps it would be wise to have a rethink on this and perhaps for those planning this to at put it on the back burner, until a later date at least, although all being well we can soon get back to purely footballing reasons to talk about and it will not be something that people feel is needed anyway...

PLAY UP POMPEY!


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Writer: pompeyrug Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday January 11 2010

Time: 4:46PM

Your Comments

Bored bored bored...Flux sake bring on the Football!!
pentonpompey
ACTIONS ACTIONS ACTIONS........ It's all a little late for words now I'm afraid.....they have burnt that bridge.... The only way to get back the trust of the fans now is to show some positive action You've made your bed....now lie in it (not literally !!) PUP
BarneyArmy
Agree with Article, I was at arsenal game singing, and at the protest at coventry, but we have got what we first asked for, and that is answers. He has given answers and assured us its on the verge of changing. Therefore this march MUST be halted, we have to give them a chance else we'll all just be being militant and thats NOT in the interst of Pompey, just people eanting to have a demo. Put it on the back burner.
Midge
You seem to have posted this article twice rug.
PompeyFcMad
NEVER agreed with the protest .. but to be honest I most agree with Penton now ... "Bored bored bored...Flux sake bring on the Football!!!"... Hopefully starting with a win at Coventry tomorrow
Chix
Agree with the article too, Rug - they are now telling us we have to understand what was happening in October. How? Nobody told us f* all! Just as they haven't while they've been putting in this 40m investment, or whatever. Some of the chants went too far, the ones about Arabs, for example, I don't think 'sack the board' is productive. I am also willing to wait and see what, if anything happens this week, following MJ's interviews. But I have to say, he's already said the players are all happy. No they're not! So lets see if any of the rest of what he says is true. But also worried about what will happen on the march/protest, will things go too far again?
tracyc
all i have EVER wanted is for us gto be able to talk about the football, and will be glad when this returns tomorrow - 'hopefully' the weeks ahead can see us going back to ONLY having to bemoan the on-the-field events, not the ones off it...
pompeyrug
as for the double post was using my mobile broadband and the poxy battery on my laptop died so i did not know until i arrived at my bothers now.
pompeyrug
I am joining the band who think that the protest is all about certain ego's than anything else. I would give the owners another week before protesting, some of what I heard sang the other night was biggoted racist tripe.
russellm
Agree with the article Rug and with Russellm - leave off the protests for the time being - I can't believe they can bring any changes/improvements during January and could well cause other problems
terrymatth
I don't agree with protesting and chanting against your ouwn team but surely even Jacobs can see that the distance (physical and psychological) of the owner from the fans would encourage the behaviour. I agree aswell that bruised egos probably plays a part. It's all a bit embarrassing
Pompeyscum
I agree with Terrymatth. Let's give them until the end of Jan - they may come up with the goodies, but this demo may just ***** them off and they do nothing in retaliation. If they're not going to do anything in Jan anyway, we haven't lost anything and can call for their heads in Feb.
PFCblue
Not at all in favour of this march, and some of the chanting was bang out of order. They seem to have realised silence is not appreciated and have begun talking, so let's see this positive action they're talking about before taking things too far.
Tantona
nice to see you won th ePukka Pie chant of the week though with your WHIP ROUND chant!
merlin
From what I heard on the quay today it seems that we are still at the " new level" storrie told us about. I didn't hear anything about imminent new investment, and I thought the embargo was supposed to have been lifted on the 10th then the 12th ( tomorrow). Why is it that Gaydamak will only talk to FOL; ok we know what that's about. Why don't the club use their own web site to announce news? I'm not convinced anything has changed other than a few people who seem to like the sound of their own voices got on key
russellm
I agree with Rug we need to be able to concentrate on the footy and with the useless Axe spouting off I fear we could be concentrating on league survival after tomorrow.
russellm
Apologies I have said the following before, but I still can't say it any better: FOOLS FOOLS FOOLS That is what I think of the people chanting "Where's the money gone?" and "Sack the board" and "Get the Arab W4nk3rs out our club". Where has the money gone? Pretty simple really: It has returned to those parties who loaned it to us to buy those players in the first place. The remainder has gone on interest payments and wages. Simples. Insulting chants aimed at those who stepped in to prop up the club from certain doom? Not very clever in my opinion. If they were to pack up their bags and leave which would seem to satisfy most of the chanters... then who do they propose to step in with 60M? Do they all perhaps have a rich mate just waiting in the wings? Well if so please do ask them to step forward. Also, why does everybody seem to think they have a right to know about the private and internal financial workings of the club and the people investing their money? Well, apart from seeking out the accounts at Companies House which I doubt any of the chanters have bothered with. The fans are not shareholders, creditors or even employees. They pay money to watch FOOTBALL. If you would choose not to do so, if you don't consider the 35 fair for the entertainment provided, please dissapear with all other JCLs. The people chanting such ludicrous phrases as sack the board do not understand what they are wishing for. All they are doing is passing on their negativity to the players and management. Some fan pressure can be a good thing, but vitriol and ill-advised mass protest is a stupid way to show how some of the best fans in the country respond to adversity. Whatever happened to the spirit of that famous loss to Aresenal where we chanted right through the defeat?
Liquor&Poker
Let's get the football on. We have little control with puppets who tell us what they think. I just fear the ground isn't tied up in the loans which could force us out of FP.
storagematt
The News are using the whole "Fratton March" protest as a way to sell papers. It sickens me, they're nearly as bad as some of the national press. Let's see the board negotiate deals to keep hold of O'Hara and possibly (I only say possibly because I don't see many other options) keep hold of Dindane, and then I will judge the board again.
stillthewhizz
Sorry "March to the Park" not "Fratton March".
stillthewhizz
Totally agree L&P, I like everybody else are totally frustrated by whats going to our beloved club. The main issue I think is that there has been nothing 'official' coming from the Club with regard to whats going on. Its only just the last couple of days that Jacobs has said anything. I am happy to wait another week to see if the transfer embargo is lifted and postive things start happening. What is most important for me is whats happening on the pitch, so lets get behind Avram and the lads and put our energies into cheering them on. PUP
blarmy
do you still believe this twaddle they keep coming out with. How many times have they come out with statements like this. The players never get paid, then we are going to have to let our best players go, we are bottom of the league you idiots we need to keep the players we have including o hara and buy more. This transfer embargo was supposed to be lifted months ago. We have have had more loans against the club, which is more debt. The owners need to put some of there own hard cash into the pot. All to late and run by idiots. I think he is insulting the intelligence of the pompey fans. Sod off back to where you crawled from.
evildwarf
This site is run by scummers isnt it. We dont want these people running our club any more. When are you gonna wake up. I think a march is a good idea. If they bugger off and we go into administration then i would be happier than i am now. I love pompey and these guys havent got a clue how to run a club. We were here before them and we will be here when they have gone. Pompey football club will always be running with or without these guys i would rather be in div 3 than the prem at the moment. So all you above who think that everything is gonna be ok, it isnt, it hasnt been all season, they are just waiting on the sky money which is due any day now and thats why they issue riduculous statements like this. The transfer embargo will be lifted and we will sign a load of loanees. Then when more deadlines for loans need to be met they will be scratching around for the pennies to pay them again and no doubt the tranfer embargo will be reinstalled by the end of the seaon.
evildwarf
run by scummers? this site has people who have decades of pompey following between then. who do you think you are evildwarf - i DO NOT agree with this protest march, and i have said so but at the end of the day if people want to it is up to them so long as people know that those not going do not care any more and those that are care more, it is up to whoever i guess!

admin might be the answer but i DO care what will happen to others as a result, the knock-on affect for local businesses could kill them - yep, that is a good idea lets go into admin and sod everyone else!
pompeyrug
We managed in div 4 before , pompey is a football club and i am sure these other businesses you mention managed before we were in the premier league or they simply didnt exist. If they have all there eggs in one basket then that is poor business management. Things go on just like pompey need to. These people in charge are simply damaging the clubs reputation, this reputation will stick for years. We will have no debt apparently, but no bank will lend us any money anymore because of all the media attention drawn into the club by these so called owners. We will be better without them, thats what i am saying and we need to let them know. At least then we will know if they really love the club and will stick around or run away with there tail between there legs , maybe they will put some money into the club. You cannot run portsmouth football club in the premier league without making a loss at present if they do then we will drop through the leagues i believe. They need to invest in the long term with there own money rather than getting loans from other sources they keep getting, that just says to me that they are not going to stick around for too long and pompey may well be left with yet more debt when they leave.
evildwarf
 

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