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Could this be us in the future?

So, Gareth Barry completes a 12m move to Citeh yesterday - there is nothing wrong with that is there? Well aside from the fact that Citeh are neither the champions league club that he claimed would be the only side he would leave for, nor will they be in any form of European competition next season...

The common opinion is that Barry sold out!

But did he?

To be fair to Citeh, and in all honesty I have been fairly critical of them over the past couple of years, they seem to be doing a lot of things right that is not actually talked about - ok, they might be spending over the odd on players and then be offering obscene amounts of money wages wise. To be fair on that score too they are paying over the odds for some players because they are being asked to, not just because they can. If the point comes where this is way past what they will pay they walk away, and have done this already. As for the excessive wages, again to be fair 'the big 4' have been paying this for some time, and all-in-all most have been forced into increasing what they offer to land players, in the current financial climate there will no doubt be a rethink, there sure as hell was going to be one here!

So, back to the 'Barry sold out' point...

Of course, as an outsider looking in it is easy for me to 'stick my beak in' and I may be well be well off the mark, but potentially I think that the only mistakes that he made where his 'public thoughts' that he wanted to join Liverpool last summer as they were a bigger team and the one that has come back to bite him in the arse most strongly, the 'I only want to leave for a team in the champions league' thoughts.

As said, Citeh are neither, well not the champions league - or European team - for next season anyway!

Most just view Citeh as a club 'splashing the cash' but to give credit where I do feel it is due our change in situation, or at least should be change, has opened my eyes somewhat to what is going on at Citeh.

It is 'said' that it is not just a case of money thrown at players left right and centre, or at least trying to, plenty of money has been pumped into the general running of the club in order to ensure that it is run the right way - ok, throwing money at something is not exactly the right way, but the suggestion is that all aspects at the club have been looked at, modernised, networked and foundations well and truly put in place for future development from within as well as from outside.

So, all in all Citeh do appear to be putting together a professionally run outfit that is serious about a real challenge - and this challenge seems to have a genuine vision, a vision that is sold to people.

Of course, and lets not kid ourselves, the amount of zeros that follows the first number in the weekly pay cheque also acts as a real eye opener for the players, but money is not the sole motivator for some, granted most these days, but not all.

I really do feel that Citeh have a serious strategy in place, and one that really could threaten a shakeup in the English game - they just happen to have the finances to do this!

Whilst it is all too easy to look at them and think 'yep they buy success' and 'players greed will see them through' others, albeit it on a less scale have done this for years, it does not come down entirely to that. The misfortune of Barry's claims for wanting to leave Villa are not Citeh's fault that this was not the case - the potential that the England man can see in their club, along with the wages as mentioned, was enough to jump on that bandwagon.

Although Villa had said they would not sell Barry even if it meant losing him on a free next summer - apparently they were not so willing to do that, as when all is said and done they could have said 'no'. Thought is they were actually fairly quick to accept the offer, how true that is I do not know?

Whilst I do not think for one minute that once our takeover has gone through, all being well it will without any problems, we will be on a financial level with Citeh I do feel that 'if' most is to be believed we 'should' have substantial financial backing - of course the whole infrastructure of Pompey needs looking at too, but if/when we get those looked at, not so much the academy as we have already done some pretty special work on that, who is to say that we will not one day be in the position that Citeh are?

That position being one where players decided that Pompey is the place to go instead some other 'bigger clubs?' Ok, maybe due in large part the 'possible' money on offer will be a draw, but another being the potential and vision of the club that was sold to them...

There has been plenty of 'debate' with Spurs recently that they are 'a bigger and better side' that is 'much more universal' and has a 'vastly superior fan base than we ever will' but given time, effort, patience and of course money who is not to say that in 5, 10, 15, 20 or however many years time we cannot one day not only overtake them in all areas but also become one of the biggest and best clubs in the land?

Afterall every club, even the likes of Arsenal, Chelski, Liverpool and Manyoo all had to start somewhere - and look at them now!

Until our deal goes through and we really know what is one offer we do not know that much, but 'potentially' I guess as much as anything it is not inconceivable that this could not happen to us and if it did it is also not incomprehensible that the situation that has just seen Gareth Barry chose Citeh over others could not 'be us in the future' as well...

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Date:Wednesday June 3 2009

Time: 1:31PM

Your Comments

Never going to happen. We need at least 4 years with big backing to make us anywhere near a force it has been said b4. Need a new stadium and someone to back us. Let's see if the doc will do that first before getting carried away
harrissman
Rug. Chic. Et all big love from Bangkok but let's see if the deal goes through firstf
harrissman
I hear on the grapevine that the Barry deal is 12 million up front rising to a possible 25 million over the next four years. I think Barry has also moved to City for th esake of his England career. He would not be given first team football every week at Pool, and he had obviously had enough of Villa. Seems like a fairly good move to me if I were him.
sneakay
I hope we don't go out spending for the sake of spending. I think it's a shame that Barry chose to join city, although I can understand his motives ($$$). I'm also not sure if city did much wrong. If MON or Lerner didn't think they were getting a good deal, I'm sure they wouldn't have sold. so in that sense, they arn't exactly doing anything wrong. But i personaly still hope that we build a club more slowly, and try to pick up young, ambitious talented players, rather than overpriced premiership stalowarts.
pompeycarpet
harrissman, i do say above - and have said over and over the past week or so that 'patience' and time is needed, as is the takeover first of all - that 'in time' is this not possible...
im not saying, nor an i expecting or wanting 'an instant fix', lets do it right, get everything in place we need and then see what happens - but 'if' all is done as it is said it will and we do it right how can anyone say its 'never going to happen', then again who can say it will, you just have to think 'what if'...
pompeyrug
but i also say to you carpet, as much as citeh would have offered massive amounts of money is it not just possible that citeh really do have something in place and the vision that is sold to players also helps? the money of course is a major factor too...
pompeyrug
I think people need to get their head out of the clouds, feet planted firmly on the ground and see what happens!
pentonpompey
not sure if that is to me or not penton, maybe not but maybe so, but my feet are firmly planted tho - has what ive been saying for the past week or so not shown this?
also the above is a 'hypothetical', 'could it be possible' thing - again, if it is read completely, which tbh i think because i often write too much it isnt always - people 'skim', and i am just as guilty, its proven to be a 'could this happen in time'...
pompeyrug
I think that we will be the new Chelsea, as Crouch himself is hoping. First we have to make sure that the Doc signs 100%. Then, we can start dreaming. We have every right to do so.
Pompey Malta
Well I don't know about the future,I think this is us already! We have some of the best Managers on the planet standing in line waiting for an interview and we haven't even completed the deal yet! FP is beginning to sound like Job Centre!
Gandor1
Not convinced about being the 'new Chelsea'. May be we will become a 'new Pompey'??? Clubs that already have great stadia, training grounds & the back up infrastructure are many years ahead of us. No doubt we could & will catch up. Shame Dr S wasn't coming in this time last year after we had won the cup.
storagematt
Good article,and have to also agree with storage, let focus on being the 'new Pompey'. Obviouslycomparisons will be made to citeh and others but lets just hope we can build 'responsibly with direction' and get ourselves as close to the 'top 4 ' as possible. A has been said many a time, what is big? At the end of the day results and league position count, I don't give a stuff if we are bigger, in facilities, fan base or whatever, but if we finsih say 4th then the rewrads will come our way on merit of play and not our stature.
blarmy
Of course we've already signed a few players of the same kind of stature of Barry - Crouch, James, Sol (in his day), Diarra, Krancjar, Johnson . . . It's not as though we've had trouble signing international players. I'd be happy with a few more of the same next year. There's also the question of all this money in football, which is what it takes to be successful. I really wish it wasn't like that - but it is. And given that it is, is there any reason why we can't be a part of it too? Although I find it hard right now to adjust my expectations to include Pompey in the champions league - but, one step at a time. A short while ago we didn't really expect UEFA cup football either.
tracyc
 

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