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Save our atmosphere!

Before I start, I am not saying that the Fratton atmosphere has gone, as it is not, but it certainly is not the force it once was - well at least on a consistent basis - and the worry I have, which I am sure is shared by many others, is that the club are not going to do enough to ensure that this does not continue to suffer...

You may remember a couple of weeks back that I produced an article about the atmosphere at Fratton, and how we 'could', maybe even 'should' follow the lead of Sheffield Wednesday (Why do Portsmouth Football Club not do this? - click here) well this is not something that I am going to let go, and nor do I think we should individually or collectively...

It was prior to the last home game with Bolton that I first raised this matter publicly, and in fact took my thoughts on the matter to Peter Storrie, who, to his credit, responded and quickly in saying: 'This is not an area that I usually deal with. I got involved last time to try and help resolve the situation. My understanding at the moment is that Johnny himself has chosen not to bring the drums and bell etc but I will get an update or get someone to come back to you.'

Further to his credit, and to his word, Storrie did again get back to me again - and quickly to be fair: 'I have since got an update and with the bell it was in fact stopped by us last, as Johnnie would not just ring the bell, he went to the back of the stand and kept smashing it against the back causing some 3,500 of damage. I have given him the chance of bringing it on Saturday if he just rang the bell and did not cause any damage. Up to him now, if he lets me down then he leaves me little choice. On the drums it is more complex as we have lots of complaints from fans and indeed many of whom were going to sue the club under the noise act etc, so that is more complicated and we will look into this again in the summer.'

The bell returned against Bolton, and was an improvement in atmosphere coincidental or not? I will let you decide...but I would like to think that in some small part Vital Pompey helped with the bell returning for that game and this 'should', I assume, mean it stays this weekend against Arsenal?

I maintain my thoughts from my previous article that 'the majority' and not 'the minority' should rule on the drum issue, although unfortunately it appears that we now live in a world - football and in general - where the minority does rule and upsetting these is actually more important!

I also maintain my thoughts that we should put this matter to a vote of season ticket holders, I am not doing this because I think 'they are more important or have more rights', although it can be argued that is actually the case, but when all is said and done they are there every week so if they are happy - on the whole - for this then that should be that?

Those that do not like it would then have to 'like it or lump it', they then either have to move or leave. Lets be honest those complaining most likely have not been attending football for anywhere near as long a time as Westy and his crew, and instruments, have! Like it, or like him, or not that is the case and the whole package has been a major draw to the club for some time - kill that, and you kill something special about Portsmouth Football Club.

Ok, lets be fair those 'complaining' also pay their money so they also have rights, finding a happy medium does need to happen but if the numbers were small enough why not put those that want quiet in the 'punch and Judy' stand - not that I am now looking to embarrass them. 'If' the majority proved to be for 'the drums staying away' then I would hold my hands up and say 'fair enough', but as football is about passion and noise I would be surprised if this was the case...

If we thought this season was tough then, and although I am not trying to be a 'merchant of doom', I think this is more realistic - unless we are taken over in the summer, and early! - I feel that next season minus some 'star names' and most likely few replacements the atmosphere will be key. Pompey will need all the help they can get next season I reckon, so ruining the backing that the players are given is going to make this even tougher. We usually have the advantage over teams as we play with '12 men', why would we want to lose this advantage?

It is all very well 'saying' we want something but actually following through these actions is what we need to do - this is not something I will let go, and I hope that everyone else is going to carry on backing me in this quest?

Not for one minute am I suggesting that we launch a barrage of correspondence on Peter Storrie, I would in fact almost encourage against that, although to be honest maybe letters - I would advice against email to be honest - would not hurt.

I know more voices and opinions make for the chances of actions being taken greater, but sometimes all those voices presented at once help more, so maybe I could forward all our thoughts to him?

So lets have our say below I guess and I will then pass these on? Does this sound like a good ideal?

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Writer: pompeyrug Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Friday May 1 2009

Time: 6:00PM

Your Comments

I don't want to sit near the drums - thats why I moved to the South Stand. I would no more of thought of complaining about them as flying to the moon, they are an integral part of the Fratton Park experience, and I really do think we miss them. If anyone doesn't want to sit close to the drums, then MOVE like I did.
Gandor1
I don't want to sit near the drums - thats why I moved to the South Stand. I would no more of thought of complaining about them as flying to the moon, they are an integral part of the Fratton Park experience, and I really do think we miss them. If anyone doesn't want to sit close to the drums, then MOVE like I did.
Gandor1
can they not just have a "quieter" area, and a "noisier" area. Ask people which area they want to be in, then they can't complain! ...ok, things are never as strait forward as that... but when you have someone who doesn't like loud noises surrounded by people who do, it's a shame when the single person has there way.
pompeycarpet
can they not just have a "quieter" area, and a "noisier" area. Ask people which area they want to be in, then they can't complain! ...ok, things are never as strait forward as that... but when you have someone who doesn't like loud noises surrounded by people who do, it's a shame when the single person has there way.
pompeycarpet
'were going to sue the club under the noise act ' well I have heard everything now! That is not what the Noise Act is for.
eastneydave
'were going to sue the club under the noise act ' well I have heard everything now! That is not what the Noise Act is for.
eastneydave
Noise and getting behind the team is what it's all about, that's why I got my season ticket in the Fratton End, its the place to be - I want as much noise as possible. John has been supporting Pompey for donkeys years, and he seems to be on a mission to get the crowd going - in fact he goes to the lengths of the bell and the drums and the bugle to do just that. OK, he's a nutter, but he's a harmless nutter and hes certainly Pompey till he dies. I really thought the atmosphere was better at Bolton because of the bell, and I'm convinced his (bell-less) presence at St James Park helped spur us on. This is not only what football is all about, its what Pompey is all about. That's why we don't need to play our song on the tannoy before the game (a la Liverpool) or get fat ignorant opera singers to cheap-jibe the away fans. He's our equivalent, and his bell, drums, bugle etc must come back.
tracyc
Noise and getting behind the team is what it's all about, that's why I got my season ticket in the Fratton End, its the place to be - I want as much noise as possible. John has been supporting Pompey for donkeys years, and he seems to be on a mission to get the crowd going - in fact he goes to the lengths of the bell and the drums and the bugle to do just that. OK, he's a nutter, but he's a harmless nutter and hes certainly Pompey till he dies. I really thought the atmosphere was better at Bolton because of the bell, and I'm convinced his (bell-less) presence at St James Park helped spur us on. This is not only what football is all about, its what Pompey is all about. That's why we don't need to play our song on the tannoy before the game (a la Liverpool) or get fat ignorant opera singers to cheap-jibe the away fans. He's our equivalent, and his bell, drums, bugle etc must come back.
tracyc
your atmosphere is far better than ours :-(
merlin
your atmosphere is far better than ours :-(
merlin
Dear supporters of Portsmouth FC who complain about the noise of the drums,


As a Fratton Ender for 35 years I am ashamed of you - They were there when most of you started attending Fratton Park and if they weren't why complain now? - Shame on you. We as Pompey fans are famous for our noise and atmosphere why are you trying to kill it with your petty threats of legal action. Good or bad the noise, however it is made, is part and parcel of Portsmouth FC if you don't like it why not go somewhere (sit) else
Chix
Dear supporters of Portsmouth FC who complain about the noise of the drums,


As a Fratton Ender for 35 years I am ashamed of you - They were there when most of you started attending Fratton Park and if they weren't why complain now? - Shame on you. We as Pompey fans are famous for our noise and atmosphere why are you trying to kill it with your petty threats of legal action. Good or bad the noise, however it is made, is part and parcel of Portsmouth FC if you don't like it why not go somewhere (sit) else
Chix
last time we were in england we could only get tickets for milton end It was hail stoning and freezing cold. The echo of drums and bell from the Fratton end kept us singing and chanting along throughout the game, The next game was a FA cup game and we were lucky enough to get tickets in the fratton end, The atmosphere was incredible. We were in the pub with Westwood and his gang before the game, Yes he is a nutter but at the game the drums the bugle and the bell just got everyone going. We say it is a must for the atmosphere It enhanced our enjoyment
race
last time we were in england we could only get tickets for milton end It was hail stoning and freezing cold. The echo of drums and bell from the Fratton end kept us singing and chanting along throughout the game, The next game was a FA cup game and we were lucky enough to get tickets in the fratton end, The atmosphere was incredible. We were in the pub with Westwood and his gang before the game, Yes he is a nutter but at the game the drums the bugle and the bell just got everyone going. We say it is a must for the atmosphere It enhanced our enjoyment
race
However...you can see their point about the bell if JW keeps bashing lumps out of the Fratton end. Is that true? Wouldn't surprise me.
hammersmithblue
However...you can see their point about the bell if JW keeps bashing lumps out of the Fratton end. Is that true? Wouldn't surprise me.
hammersmithblue
If want peace & quiet & polite hand clapping, fck off to the opera! Football is about passion! We need to scream, sing & support the boys on the pitch. We are the 12th man that has saved this club in years gone by. I want noise, bring back the drums. We'll have the fckin human rights act next!!!
storagematt
If want peace & quiet & polite hand clapping, fck off to the opera! Football is about passion! We need to scream, sing & support the boys on the pitch. We are the 12th man that has saved this club in years gone by. I want noise, bring back the drums. We'll have the fckin human rights act next!!!
storagematt
fck off to the Opera... Love it ! - well said Matt!
Race you make some really good points - I've known people from aboard who have just gone to Fratton to 'sense' the atmosphere ,, In some respects it's a crowd puller HSB - Yeah I agree with you and half of me feels that if it wasn't John and his brigade there would be so much of an issue.. He does need to behave himself .. but until such time as I can afford bell, bugle and drum lessons I'll be right behind him.. well a bit to the left actually ;)
Chix
fck off to the Opera... Love it ! - well said Matt!
Race you make some really good points - I've known people from aboard who have just gone to Fratton to 'sense' the atmosphere ,, In some respects it's a crowd puller HSB - Yeah I agree with you and half of me feels that if it wasn't John and his brigade there would be so much of an issue.. He does need to behave himself .. but until such time as I can afford bell, bugle and drum lessons I'll be right behind him.. well a bit to the left actually ;)
Chix
When John is there, the atmosphere is fantastic, it gets the crowd going and frightens the hell out the opposition. It defines Fratton Park.
Lemmi
When John is there, the atmosphere is fantastic, it gets the crowd going and frightens the hell out the opposition. It defines Fratton Park.
Lemmi
just out of intrest... why doesn't someone else bring a bell? :-)
pompeycarpet
just out of intrest... why doesn't someone else bring a bell? :-)
pompeycarpet
I like Carpet's idea - I think that all those on Vital Pompey going to the last game of the season should turn up with those bloody big cow-bells.
Squee
I like Carpet's idea - I think that all those on Vital Pompey going to the last game of the season should turn up with those bloody big cow-bells.
Squee
The bell has always been an attraction to me, even if I do not visit Fratton very often.. I do come from a different culture, but you should go to u-tube and search for Valletta FC Supporters (singing) and you will hear a lot of noise, even if the there would only be around 2000 fans each match. However, football is all about noise, because otherwise there will be no passion.
Pompey Malta
The bell has always been an attraction to me, even if I do not visit Fratton very often.. I do come from a different culture, but you should go to u-tube and search for Valletta FC Supporters (singing) and you will hear a lot of noise, even if the there would only be around 2000 fans each match. However, football is all about noise, because otherwise there will be no passion.
Pompey Malta
For the season coming they are creating a 'noisy' zone and all the people sitting in this area are going to be told about it and given the potion to move. Anyone who stays will not have the option then of complaining. This is what I heard on the quay after the Bolton game. Unfortunately straight away some lady phoned to say that she had not been told she sits in the 'noisy' section for next season and is convinced the drums are 'close' to her and she does not want them. I almost crashed my car when I heard this, and simply thought that someone needs to ring up and tell her to F'OFF! If you don't want to shout and make noise then go and sit in the South Stand.
sneakay
For the season coming they are creating a 'noisy' zone and all the people sitting in this area are going to be told about it and given the potion to move. Anyone who stays will not have the option then of complaining. This is what I heard on the quay after the Bolton game. Unfortunately straight away some lady phoned to say that she had not been told she sits in the 'noisy' section for next season and is convinced the drums are 'close' to her and she does not want them. I almost crashed my car when I heard this, and simply thought that someone needs to ring up and tell her to F'OFF! If you don't want to shout and make noise then go and sit in the South Stand.
sneakay
the noise at FP was incredible, when i was there a few years back even when Arsenal was winning 3-0 with T. Henry and Co. your fans never stop supporting your team, it was to an extent that there wasnt any point singing coz we couldnt get heard, yeaterday was different you could sense that it was quieter, and you could hear the Arsenal fans...i feel that its has something to do with being successful i.e winning the FA. cup, your expectations rise, and so your disappointments are greater leading onto quieter times
fran merida
the noise at FP was incredible, when i was there a few years back even when Arsenal was winning 3-0 with T. Henry and Co. your fans never stop supporting your team, it was to an extent that there wasnt any point singing coz we couldnt get heard, yeaterday was different you could sense that it was quieter, and you could hear the Arsenal fans...i feel that its has something to do with being successful i.e winning the FA. cup, your expectations rise, and so your disappointments are greater leading onto quieter times
fran merida
 

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