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The 'landlords' disappointed but you move on...

My support of Tony Adams has hardly been 'a secret' has it, maybe this was even more so with my desperation to 'show' Jamie's Dad that there was life after him, so understandably I am 'disappointed' to say the least that he, and of course I guess Johnny Metgod, have been sacked - not that I could quite understand what he actually brought to the table?

Anyway, the announcement as it came through on Sunday night stunned me - yep I know many will say 'are you really surprised?' Well I would say I was - maybe not that this happened, as it was, and has been, a distinct possibility for some time, but more that it happened when it did. Another thing, why do these things always happen so late? Sandra's husband moving on like a thief in the night and now Pompey acting like this so late in the day... As usual I digress, the public backing that Adams received from Peter Storrie as little ago as Friday, was it Friday, when claims were made in a national?

I cannot for the life of me understand why he was publicly backed, and the paper concerned threatened with legal action, only for us to turn around a few days later and sack him... If we were doing this, why not have done it before the transfer window closed. Ok, I think we left it too late, but surely doing this after Fulham would have made more sense?

We have in effect said, 'we back you Tony but unless you get something against Liverpool you are out of the door!'

Again, I make no secret of my thoughts that we should never go into a game 'accepting defeat', but defeat against a title chasing side - yep, title chasing side, is hardly something to be disgraced with. The manor of it was hard to accept, again, but I really do think that despite this defeat 'a corner had been turned' and we would have beaten Citeh at the weekend, and he deserved that game bare minimum, defeat and yep I think I would have accepted this more, albeit still have been sad, but nowhere near as disappointed...

A win breads confidence, like defeats suck this from you - snowball effects work both ways, and I genuinely feel we would have seen this starting in a positive light from Saturday, but there you go the decision has been made, I cannot change this nor can anyone else.

No amount of coaching could have prevented a shockingly poor back pass from the half way line, an almost unforgivable fly kick from a player not adverse to making mistakes in recent times yet quick to point the finger of blame, the same player then failed to make amends for his error when he had the chance. And the 'arm waiving' and wondering around the box instead of getting back into position to face up and defend a cross from a vastly experienced player deep into injury time - I challenge anyone to explain how Adams can be blamed for much, if any of what went wrong on Saturday. You cannot legislate for these errors you could coach players 24/7 and still not prevent such errors, these were individual with only those individuals to blame. The players let him down and in that instance in a game that had on the face of it been decided was a 'must win game', cost him his job...

Takeover talk is rife, there is a thought that maybe, just maybe with more talk of this takeover resurfacing recently this could be going through - which of course means new owners would almost certainly want a new man in place, hence his departure?

I find it hard to believe that a takeover would be pushed through just a week after the transfer window closed and with us in such a 'precarious position', and would have thought until our premier league safety was assured this would not go through, so the summer or when this said safety was confirmed seemed more likely?

So taking that into account, when looking at the new man to come in, who is going to take a job knowing that a takeover is being actively sought, so they could be out of a job in no time?

Word I am getting is that this takeover could, as unlikely as I see it being, be very much on the horizon hence why this apparently 'rushed decision' has been made - yep I know records speak for themselves so it is not rushed in that case, I just mean rushed when it seemed the corner has been turned. Hence why this has happened, and further word is 'why' Sven Goran Eriksson's name has come into the frame!

Speaking of the Swede, as much as I think that he is a horrible man personally I would welcome his appointment as manager of Pompey now we are actively looking for one. He took a lot of grief when manager of England, from myself included, but his record at club level - and to be fair with England! - is second to none, well few. Eriksson is a man of vast experience, is a name known throughout the world and for me would attract players - money permitting - and keep others. The second half to the season he had with Citeh last season was poor, but for me he was sacked way too soon. I also feel that he would give young talent a chance as he has in the past, he liked to play with a 'very junk team' as he would say, of course young not junk! He is under pressure with Mexico, and word is he could be sacked this week regardless, but I am not sure we have the financial muscle to get him.

Another name in the frame in Alan Curbishley, although it is my understanding that he is unable to take on another job until his compensation payout is confirmed with West Ham. So that rules him out? 'If' he was an option, although I am not convinced I think he would be my second choice - again he has experience, and most certainly of relegation battles and is another that is willing to give youth a chance - something I feel is essential to our growth in the future. Appointing him though would make a mockery of our 'counter claims' last week...

The third name mentioned strongly, and for me the man that I am almost 100% convinced is the man that will get the job is Avram Grant. Experience yep, of relegation battles? Not so sure about that. I am not sure that he is a motivator of men at all - and do we not need this? I can see some merits, but the minuses in my mind far outweigh the pluses, but what do I know... He has been waiting in the wings for months, he may as well have been sitting in Tony's chair when he was not around, and maybe he was! His connections with the Gaydamak family and the connections with a 'possible' group looking to takeover the club make it even more likely - although 'if' a takeover goes through in the immediate future I have this sneaky feeling it will not be a consortium with him in mind!

I would hope that neither of the latter two are appointed, as they are names linked time and time again - they have been like vultures circling, and appointing them would be like inviting them onto the carcass, then again if either was the right man - not that I am convinced - then not appointing them would be cutting off your nose to spite your face, and I would only consider this cutting off of my nose to spite my face when it came to Frank's Uncle!

So, I am gutted, genuinely gutted that Adams has been sacked - as said I really feel a corner had been turned and Citeh would have again seen the real starting point with 3pts picked up. I feel almost 100% certain we will win on Saturday now as this usually always happens with a new man. Many will say survival would not have happened under Adams, for me it would have and he would have developed into a top class manager - as it is he will now do this somewhere else and I fully expect him to come back and haunt us one day.

He may as well have had one of his arms chopped off, as they were so far twisted and tied behind his back he had little or no room to move. Players were sold out of necessity - granted those that went went for top money and both wanted to for differing reasons, but he had no luxuries as Frank Snr's brother-in-law did, in fact it was his actions to a large degree, coupled with the owners that left him in this situation! His summer budget could well have been limited, but he could then have been judged - as it is the reality probably is that he has always been a 'short-term', 'used' option and in many ways has been set up as a patsy. I think Adams was treated atrociously by the club. Not many would have come in and worked under the circumstances that he did, we took advantage of this. It did not work now he can carry the can. Whoever comes in will either now be a hero or can blame the previous manager for the squad they inherited. The press have always been anti Pompey, but the way we go about doing things at times leaves us an easy target and we bring a lot of it on ourselves! The boy who cried wolf springs to mind for me...

To be honest my believe in much that comes out of the mouths of seniors figures at the top of the chain at this club being true from now on is going to be very limited - I have tried to give these benefits of the doubt, and whilst some fingers pointed at them have been ludicrous I think that some thoughts have probably been truer than they have led us to believe and their actions very contradictory of their words.

I wish Tony nothing but the best of luck for the future, I desperately wanted him to be successful here but it was not meant to be - for me though he was still, despite a seemingly obvious split on him, one of the most respected Pompey managers in a long time, since, dare I say it, not that I am comparing them as managers, Alan Ball. Not many others have had their name sung as loud and proud for as long as he had in so many games since Bally, or maybe I am wrong? Maybe this was as so many of us were so desperate for him to stick two fingers up at Jamie's Dad and say life goes on without you, which of course it does.

All this said; when all is said and done I of course support Portsmouth Football Club. Managers and players always have my backing, and some more of my support than others, but these always will come and go, my support of this club, which I love, will not change so I will support whoever comes in - like them or not, but whoever it is lets hope they are the right person! God knows at this stage of the season, in the position we are in we need them to be!

Well, these are my own feelings - maybe I will rethink some in time, but this is how I feel now...

PLAY UP POMPEY!

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Writer: pompeyrug Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday February 9 2009

Time: 3:51PM

Your Comments

Must say you have been unlucky especially against us, and it didn't help that James in my opinion had a mare against his old club.
chris the villan
not sure that jamo can take too much blame, he made several vital clearances and was left with little choice with the backpass. maybe being beaten at his near post for kuyt's goal 'could' have been avoided, but lets make no boners about it kuyt shouldnt have even been in the position to be shooting, near post, far post or in the middle of the goal!
pompeyrug
Plus Jamo tried to use his chest I think in getting the ball away. Bilic for Pompey!!
PFCGino
No room for sentiment. Had decades of failed managers, I want this club in the prem & I don't care how it's done or by who. The players didn't perform for him as they had done under 'him' and no matter how unlucky he or we were, we are in deep do do. Someone dig us out please.
storagematt
You have summed up my feelings totally rug! PUP!
Bowlsey
if they wouldnt play for TA like they did 'him' whats to say they will play for whoever comes in next tho matt?
pompeyrug
Scolari been sacked who about him ???
stfc ballboy
Scolari has been sacked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
storagematt
more chance of sven/bilic going to chelski tbh =( were gonna get the worst deal. its absolutely critical we get a GOOD MAN MANAGEMENT manager in or we are screwed! saying that, ive put 20 on boro getting relegated, theyve just released they are 85m in debt! wba will go down, so we are all really fighting for the 3rd relegation spot (fighting NOT to get it of course =p)
pompey--pessimist
interestingly sven goran eriksson has moved from odds of 11.00 to 4.50 (3rd favourite) ... i put 1 on sven this morning, that would be good, no?!
pompey--pessimist
A well balanced view on TA's departure rug,but the fact is,whether unfortunate or not, our record under Tony was even worse than under Clouseau !! We have been unlucky in many games under him,but points make prizes and we didn't get enough with him in charge. The fact that you can see better defending on a Sunday morning at Farlington than in the Liverpool game was the kiss of death. My only major query,is the timing,surely if that was the boards intention,then TA should have had his P45 in the transfer window,so that the new man could have perhaps brought in his own men,and in fairness TA could apparently have gone to Feyenoord,so everyone could have been happier than we all are currently. On the plus side,if Sacha is saying that the new man will be here for City,then that strongly suggests that the deal is done. PLEASE let it be someone capable of inspiring the boys to a performance or two in the coming weeks. See you all on Saturday.....Play Up Pompey !!
lincspfcfan
It is a shame that people will look back on tonys time here, and probably see just results. He has made some good signings, we have seen some brilliant performances, and played well in almost all our games. it has just been a total lack of confidence which has led to our downfall.
pompeycarpet
new managers - Sven is someone that I thought did a BRILLIANT job at man city - however there is in way we would be able to afford his wages, so we may as well forget him. Bilic is more than happy as croatia manager, and besides, it has been prooved time after time, a good international manager does not make a good club manager (and a good club manager won;t necesserily make a good national manager). McClaren is someone I Hvan't seen mentioned - but he DID do a good job at boro, and he may think he has a point to prove in the english game. Scolari is someone else with a point to prove, and he would probably like our squad - it's very attacking after all - however I can't see us being able to afford his wages. Curbishley I don;t think would help in the slightest - I can just here the "it isn't my team, we were already going down" excuse coming from him - same with most other english managers (Paul Jewel (spelling?), Aidy Bothroyd (spelling?!?) etc.) Steve Coppell I can;t see leaving Reading, which is a shame, as I think he would make a great manager. My money though would be on Avram Grant . No, not becuase I think he is what we need or (especialy) want. He is not a motivator, I'm not convinced he was that great tacticly (youve got to admit, under adams, we outplayed every "big" team that we played!), however he is familiar with most of the players, he has been here before, he is the name mentioned with every takeover, and he is friends with sascha.
pompeycarpet
and having thought about that last point... Grant is meant to be friends with both sascha and abramovic. It follows then, that sasha and abramovic may get on, or atleast have met. And then maybe abramovic thought he would do us a favour, and make a new manager available on the market?
pompeycarpet
oh, and finaly... what about Roy Keane ?
pompeycarpet
P.S. did I mention, I am VERY dissopointed to see adams sacked. I think he could have had a bright future at the club.
pompeycarpet
Goodbye Tony, i for one will not miss him, i said at the outset he was the easy choice, never the right one. Their is a major difference between being a coach and a manager, and Tony will never be a manager, just like Keane, Ince, Roeder, Hoddle, Bryan Robson etc. Southgate will be next, only a great chairman is keeping him in a job. Thanks for nothing Tony, but i wish you no harm or ill.
Owenspompey
Couldn't of said it better myself Owens
pentonpompey
Managers are paid to make decisions during a game - I'm sure Gaydamack was wondering why Adams didn't make 2 substitutions for tired players when we were two-one up. Adams said he was planning to make a substitution - what, at full time? I'm sure most people were expecting it - when it didn't happen and we lost it was confirmed in his mind that Adams didn't have what it takes.
StuartM
I'll thank Tony for what looks like a solid stint in the transfer market and giving it his all during a very difficult time at PFC. For the two seasons up until taking the managers job he was a great coach and part of the best Portsmouth team, basically, in living memory.
Pompeyscum
to be fair StuartM TA did have 2 players stripped off and ready to come on not long before liverpool made it 2-2, these men gekas and kanu...
granted not making it after, taking off a shattered nugent or suring up the defence to hold onto a 2-2 draw was a mistake - still found it hard to fault much of what he did on saturday... and im not being sarcastic.
pompeyrug
Very poignant and well written article, Rug. Have to say I did question his decisions, for example thought there should have been a sub against Liverpool, and he should never have started Kanu at Fulham. In general we conceded far too many goals, especially late on, and our defence has been shocking - although I admit some of the players must take the blame for this. Carps, did you say Mclaren? Wash your mouth out with soap! Saw an interview a year or so ago with Jamo, talking about how highly he rates Sven as a manager, don't know if that's a general opinion amongst the senior players, but it could bode well if he does get the job. When he first took over Citeh they went off like a rocket - if he can do that at Fratton it could be all we need to stay up.
tracyc
Sven has a big couple of games coming up in the World Cup Qualifiers, so it is unlikely he will be on the way. Please not McLaren, i would rather have Hoddle, and that would be bad.
Owenspompey
There was 6 minutes between our goal to make it 2-1 and Liverpool's to make it 2-2 and then around 6 minutes to when Torres scored and yet Tony did nothing... to me that is indecisiveness, and a lack of awareness that we had to defend the lead at all costs.
StuartM
tracyc... just an idea, and he DID get to the uefa cup final with a very average squad of players. sven is someone who, if we could afford his wages, we should make every oportunity to get. however I think he would rather manage mexico or chelsea.
pompeycarpet
No secret I didn't want Adams at first (I was a Big Sam fan) but the bloke grew on me - I liked his honesty and the fact that he seemed to care, but at the end of the day we have to look at results and the future of the club so I guess the right decision has been made - although i still don't understand the timing, unless something else is afoot - Who takes over? Well I'm not a lover of Avran Grant and have a lot of Chelsea fans as mates who really didn't rate him - Would he motivate you? Life goes on and we go forward in search of points against Manchester City - I just pray we get them.
Chix
Honest and caring, two attributes that a football manager does not need to have. Cloughie never cared for anyone but himself and i reckon Fergie and Arsen are very similar. Honest, i never saw it ref, look eight yards to your left matey.
Owenspompey
Adams is a decent man. Too decent for the Football world. I reckon time will tell that this will be our loss.
Gandor1
Just watched MOTD! very funny to see you guys on there.. Chix, who were the other 2? they used there real names instead of the vital alias
nodster
Adams sacked ..... I never realised he had the backing of the of the board.
col8
 

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