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Adams on 'awful' Pompey as we slump to defeat

Tony Adams was disappointed with his sides 'awful' performance against Bolton yesterday, as he told sky sports. These are his thoughts, along with the usual bunch of my own and then a 'Rug's final thought' ramble...

Adams on 'losing every battle'
'We were awful. We didn't start well at all, we never came out of the traps, very disappointing.

'We didn't win one battle, one fight, one one-v-one. They started well, they put the ball in behind us, pressed us and out-fought us and that was really disappointing.'

The majority of the 'fight' in most of our players has gone, as said several times we play as a side and not a team anymore - by that I mean too many are out for themselves, we are a collection of 'talented players', but not necessarily players that are willing to play as a team and will not put in the graft needed, in many ways we mirror our former manager, as important to us as he was... I want quality footballers, but also want players that want to play as a team and want to play for the shirt!

Adams on being 'angry'
'God, I was fuming and I told them so at half-time, I don't think they've ever seen me like that, I've kind of lost my voice a little bit.

'But I am honest with them and I can't say they did well if they didn't and through my career as a coach and a manager and life I try to be honest with people and I can look them in the eye and say: 'That's just not good enough'.

'There was a positive reaction because I have got a good group of guys - I've got an honest bunch, they are good guys - but they didn't come out of the traps.'

The blame 'always' lies with the manager but all too often - and not just with Pompey - the 'players power' is winning too many battles these days. Adams needs to take the blame for some of his selections and the way he lines the side up, allowing players to 'drift' out of position is something that he just cannot allow players to do, and the 'Bolton of old hoof it long football' we played is embarrassing - again, if done against his will, as surely it must be, he again needs to give them a good shoeing to ensure they stop this 'limp it long from the back' style of old school, old brand and out dated stuff - well certainly with the type of player we have.

Adams on 'getting what we deserved'
'We got exactly what we deserved - nothing. There are certain fundamentals in football you have to do to win football games and we didn't do them. You have to compete, you have to stand up and we got rolled over in the first 15 minutes.'

We were beaten and rightly so, the only real injustice was that we were not beaten more heavily - that would have been exactly what we deserved! Thankfully Bolton 'let us off the hook' in that respect and a few decent saves and some proof that we can actually defend helped...

Adams on Diarra
'I needed to get about 25-30 minutes into him. I am a professional and he is one of my players at the moment, he is a Portsmouth player and injuries happen whether it is in training, at Portsmouth or Real Madrid.

'I will be professional - until he is not at Portsmouth anymore and he has gone to Real Madrid I will do my job.

'If he's not and he's at Real Madrid, good luck to him and we'll get on with the business at Portsmouth.'

I was amazed that he was not only in the squad, but that he also played - albeit a token gesture as even he did not seem that up for it, and can you blame him? Why jeopardise a 'dream move' to Madrid! Although, that said some 'reports' claim that he is himself pricing himself out of this move - which 'if' true maybe money means more to him, for the sake of a few thousand, even several thousand, I know that Madrid would be my destination over other 'touted'. He is 'said' to have been very emotional after the game though, which I think shows that he had enjoyed his time here and is sad to go. We were good for each other, and it worked well.

'If' the deal has not been all but sealed come Boxing Day he will start, and that would be a dangerous game to be playing - for me that would suggest that the Madrid deal would be off...

Rug's final thoughts... 'sink or swim'
Well, Tony, you will either sink or swim now - the next 4 or 5 weeks are not only going to determine what your future in the game will be but also quite possible what the future of Pompey will be - or direction at least it will take, and I wish you nothing but the best of luck, unfortunately I fear that you might need it - but you can rest assured that I will be backing you as you are leading what I support and back the most 'Portsmouth Football Club'...

Despite all that is said there is clearly 'disharmony' at the club - are players concerned because the do not know if they are coming or going, are they unsettled because they have been 'unsettled' by whisperings in their ear, are they unsettled because they 'do not like' the new manager? Sol Campbell has 'voiced concerns' about the lack of harmony behind the scenes at the club and this is causing a knock-on effect with the performances - sorry, but these fellas get paid a kings ransom to do what they do as 'a job', so regardless as to what is happening once on that pitch they should bloody well put it out of their minds and give 100% and focus on the job in hand. Christ, I - and each of you I am sure - have problems at work and so on but can I go in and get away with the excuse 'the arguing in the office or uncertainty about my own future is causing me too much distraction to fully focus on my job?' Nope, it might be looked into but chances are I would be told to put up or shut up - time these modern day footballers did the same...

Adams, as much as I might back and support him - maybe this is more out of hope than anything, not even I know this yet? - is not helping things with some of the 'strange' things he comes out with, and is not fooling anyone with what he says. Claims that he will 'get all the money raised' are ridiculous. He will get some, but no way will he get all. His tinkering with the side needs to stop as well - going 'back to basics', well not even that has worked. A change of manager I hoped would mean no more 'square pegs in round holes' - we are still seeing this! Trying to 'accommodate' players looks to be causing more harm than good, play players in positions they are meant to play - that is a good starting point!

Width is what had been serving us so well recently, why suddenly dispense with this?

Ok, injuries might not have helped but if players are fit and available why not use them? But 'if' we must insist on persevering with this 'square pegs in round holes' route then he has to tell those playing in the wide areas 'bloody well stay out wide or you do not play at all!' Papa Bouba Diop cannot do this role - how many times do we need to see him try and fail to know - Glen Little might lack the pace but at least it is not 'foreign' to him, why have Jerome Thomas here if he is not going to get a look in - another wasted signing, with wages wasted! I know the fella is young and inexperienced and Heerenveen might not have been the greatest of sides to judge but Marc Wilson had a fantastic game, surely he would have offered much more in a right sided midfield role... For all his quality if we are not going to utilise Niko Kranjcar fully then he is a 'luxury' we can ill afford to have. If he is playing out wide, again he must be told to stay out there and be disciplined - something he lacks. When we fail to use him he comes looking for the ball, and that helps no one. He still needs a free role to be most efficient for us - unfortunately this is not a role that we seem to be able to give to him, unless we play a 5 man midfield, which means one of the strikers dips out.

Speaking of the strikers it is time that Jermain Defoe stopped moping around the pitch all the time - he is the first to berate his teammates if they do not pass to him, but how often does he then do the same thing, which he seems to think is ok - another classic case of the 'side' not 'team' aspect I mentioned previously for me perhaps, and to be honest Peter Crouch offers us more 'team' not 'side' effort and although I do not want either to go I know which one I would be far more willing to almost 'order the taxi for' these days, something I did not think I would be saying to be honest... Maybe Defoe just needs a few goals to get him going again, but at the moment his head certainly does not seem right - so if he wants to go - if that is what it is - lets get shot of him, and others who fall into the same boat. Although, and do not quote me as 'gospel' word is it is actually the club that are making noises to the sound that he 'could' be available, and it is not actually the player himself actively looking to move on - maybe this is where the problem lays, loyalty from the players might not be the problem as such, loyalty from the club might be?

A few heads need cracking together, more transparency needs to be given by the club - 'if' players are basically up for grabs just be honest and open with them and stop feeding us all this bull about everything being ok. I think we all know that we are in debt, but again who is not and I do not believe things are out of control, our debt is 'manageable' and selling a certain Frenchman 'should' make it even more so. As fans we deserve the right to know what our money is going towards, if we are to keep shelling out just for players to be sold we need to know. I pay to watch the club I love, but I also want to see good players, but good players that want to play. Clearly they cannot, and will not 'openly admit' that players need to go, but some truth when we hear so many contradictions, would not go a miss...

Adams needs to do this too, no more pussy footing around - if these players want to act like spoilt kids, then treat them like spoilt kids by giving them a spanking, and the best way to do that is drop them! I would much rather have players, albeit it less technically gifted come in and 'want' to play than have multi million pound players basically wonder around the pitch aimlessly without the fight and spirit to want to 'die for the shirt' - something that we had always had plenty of in the past! Star name or not a shift and graft needs to be put in. But he selects the team, so he now has to command respect from them, as said if dropping them is the way to do it so be it - if they react by throwing their toys out of the pram then so be it, we will soon find out who really wants to be here or not, again though as previously said we need to also show them that we want them here and should not be treating them like pieces of meat either.

Players have too much power these days, show them who is boss Tony, if you cannot do this them you will never have the respect you need to be successful - we see this all too often these days and have seen it with Spurs, Blackburn and to a degree Sunderland this season, once the 'respect goes for the manager' the players basically cannot be assed to even bother, yet they get away scot-free! I find it funny that basically the same players at each club mentioned can go from 'nothing' to almost world beaters once they 'get their own way' - if this is what success means you need then although I do not want to go down I would settle for 'middle of the road' standard I guess. Harry Redknapp was a lot of 'what was good about Pompey' over the years, but if he was 'everything' that was good about Pompey then the man really is the second coming and all should hail to him - walking on water would not be a problem!

Soul searching, honesty and loyalty - both ways - is something that we need to see doing with everyone at Portsmouth Football Club in the coming weeks, from top to bottom, weeding out those that 'do not' want to be here anymore needs to be done - those that do want to be here need to be utilised, even if they are not 'as good' as those they replace. As said at the start of my 'ramble' it is now sink or swim time, and basically - as much as he can do without his hands tied - this is what is about to happen, so Tony its over to you, with support and backing from the club, support that they keep claiming you have...

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Date:Sunday December 21 2008

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Your Comments

all these reports about defoe are somewhat frustrating ... but if hes going then id rather we sell him for at least 12.5mil and buy back benji for about 5-7mil.
pompey--pessimist
Great thought provoking article written by a man with real passion for PFC. I just feel that there is so much pressure on all teams in the PL. Look at Citie. Who would want to be MH with all his millions. I noticed today in some of the bloggs, that there are so many calls already for the head of TA. Rubbish the bloke has got to be given real time and build his team. It does appear that certain players are playing as if there thoughts are elsewhere. But is that really the case. Football like everything else is a game of confidence and if confidence is low then form suffers. Where are the leaders in that team who will lead and inspire? To be truthfull I wonder if we have any one. I used to think Distin had it but have my doubts. Crouch is giving the effort and may be its him who has this quality. Anyway lets try and relax bloody impossible I know!
pompeyfrance
Relax? - absolutely impossible with so much happening and so much speculation. There is a problem at the Park without doubt but what it is, is anybodys guess.
eastneydave
The problems are too many. The players arn't happy with their new king. It effects them on the pitch & the results show. I think TA has bitten off more than he can chew & the minute we drop into the bottom 3 it's he went. Our form is relegation material & we havn't played that many top teams!
storagematt
you sound pretty certain that we 'will' drop into the bottom 3 matt! as for our form being relegation material, hands up those in the premier league this season who can honestly say that their form isnt that aswell...
the sooner january is out of the way and we weed out those that do not want to be here and hopefully bring in those that do the better!
pompeyrug
Not too many could hold their hands up Rug with confidence I agree. But...our form is woeful, Our defense leaky at best, Our attitude stinks (Unless it's a showcase against Milan) And the most worrying of all? our goal difference. That will really sink us in the shake up! We are averaging something like 1.1 goals per game and conceding something like 1.25. Not a huge difference but it will add up with over half the season left! Hand on heart; please tell me people where your belief in TA comes from? Ever since he took over it has never been good. It doesn't look like it will get better any time soon either. Sugar! it's Christmas, and I feel a right Humbug. I wish the bloody players would give us all a present and show the Pompey spirit and turn this Pantomime around!
pentonpompey
in a nutshell ... the 2008-9 season for portsmouth is over. this is all about survival now ... and to think this time last year we were somewhat approaching our best it says a lot about how change in manager and confidence/motivation/disruptions of players can effect a club. guys the magical 40 is the aim and with the bottom being so open (no derby this year!) i think 50 should be the target. the way i measure a team is with their GD ... on inspection that would mean we would finish 16th. prem clubs are becoming a joke .... spurs, newcastle, arsenal, man city, now pompey... and thats just this season. lets buy zakora for 25 million and sell GJ for 2.5. thats the pompey mentality. lol.
pompey--pessimist
Tony"blah,blah blah", we have heard it before, either sort it out or go back to coaching.
Owenspompey
yep can see the iceberg here. If the spirit has gone behind the scenes then it's all up cr*p creek. If Hammers game goes pear shape, surely it can be long before we're looking elsewhere. If we have big bucks to spend then we need a manager who's gonna be there in the long term to make signins within a proper strategy.
hammersmithblue
Nobody saw Harry leaving when he did. Tony seemed the obvious plug but it was always going to be a gamble. I think the senior players are not behind him & that shows on the pitch. they say there is a thin line between winning & losing, wll that line looks pretty wide at the moment.
storagematt
ta (incl wycombe) games 65, won 15 (23.08%), lost 24, drawn 26. and i dont see an improvement. for the those that dont believe roy keane wont be better. keane games 100, won 42 (42%), lost 41, drawn 17. and for reference redknapp, h (2nd pompey) games 128, won 54 (42.19%), lost 45, drawn 29. spurs players were playing without confidence and didnt want to win, harry went there and they bulked up their ideas. hr, for the part of it, made players work hard to be in the first team. it seems players are in on merit now. reiterating my point ashdown and wilson should start against whu.
pompey--pessimist
nice twisting of the stats there pompey-pessimist! When TA was wycombe manager, they were struggling, he had to sell his best players, and actually he did a fairly good job with what he had. (familiar situation?) Roy Keane has spent massive ammounts of money on HIS team - and a also, a large majority of those wins were in the championship, where lets be honest) things are easier! and finaly, only including HRs is only including when he is a seasoned manager, with money to spend. what about when he was at bournmouth when he was new? he masterminded a victory over Man U, TA almost masterminded a victory over AC milan. similarities there?
pompeycarpet
i take your comments on board carpet =p but you have to admit ta's current reign isnt going well ... and the team will become weaker ... interesting times ahead.
pompey--pessimist
if we want to play twist the stats, note that to date, HR has won or drawn 62% of his Prem games with Spuds and TA has won or drawn 60% with PFC. Trouble is we've played 10 without HR and only won 2. Oh and they are still in Europe. It's all crap isn't it.
hammersmithblue
Ha Ha, ever thought of working for the Labour Party in their spin department :-)
pentonpompey
theres no point giving up on tony. we need to get behind our manager and team, and then the confidence will show on the pitch. we've been unlucky with injuries. once we have kaboul and johnson back and a replacement for diarra we should be fine. this season, when gj has played well, we play well. we are closer to europe than the bottom, so lets have some positive thinking lads...
jbaker
i knew the stats would upset people lol. i havnt given up on ta (yet) iv already said wait until valentines day/end of feb. heres another great stat (remember i am the pessimist, ive been out of a job for ages!!!) adams has won 3 matches since taking charge at portsmouth. that was 1-2 vs sunderland (last min penalty, game could have gone either way), blackburn 3-2 (lost a comfortable 2 goal lead and davis got one towards the end, lets face it, blackburn were even deeper in the doo doos) and 3-0 hereenveen (a training match at best). oh and 20 goals conceeded in 12 matches in all competitions. can you HONESTLY say youre happy drawing 2-2 with hull? and drawing 1-1 with wba? and just beating blackburn 3-2 at home? i dont have a problem getting behind the team, as long as the team want to play. and atm its not there for me.
pompey--pessimist
Whether time shows that Tony is the right man for the job or not, and I suspect it may be not in the long term, He was given the job and must be given the time to succeed or fail. To bring in someone new after just a few weeks would be even more unsettling and cause more problems than it solved. And then if the new man doesn't get it right after a few matches, what then? Another change? We had a lot of poor results and performances under HR as well, remember all those defeats before the FA cup final? 6-0 to Man citeh? Braga? and this is HR's team, give him a chance to bring in some players who want to play for him. Yes we might be in a scrap, but there are a lot of other clubs in the same scrap this season, its far from over. Its a very sharp learning curve for Tony, lets get behind him, because right now sticking with him is the best option we've got.
tracyc
Well said Tracy. Things were not right before HR left, and that was probably one of the reasons he did leave, along with money and the like. Let's all just do the only thing that supporters can and get behind our team!
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