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40,000-seater ground on Horsea Island please...

40,000-seater ground on Horsea Island please...

I want the new home of Portsmouth Football Club to be a 40,000-seater on Horsea Island, not my vote, yours - and these findings from Et_tu_Pompeii's poll are thoughts I do share to a large degree.

We all love Fratton, how could you not love it - but I think that we all agree that the time has come, or just about come, for us to expand and even move on as sad as it will be...

Redeveloping Fratton would be fantastic, but it just is not really an option that is viable is it? If we could do this then I would love it, but expanding this to a 35,000 plus seated stadium just could not be done could?

Within reason I am happy with a new home to be in most places, so if Horsea Island is to be the base of a new home then so be it. This move is something that Pompey needs, and something - a new stadium - that Portsmouth as a city needs, as this will have a great impact on the city as well, and in a positive light.

The problem is, if we continue to be unable to sell out a 20,000-seater stadium week in week out then we will get even less backing from council's and so on and you could even understand why we could not do this, as we would have a half dormant stadium more often than not! I know we do not always sell out due to varying reasons - rising costs, where you live and so on, but lets face it if 250,000 'Pompey fans' that turned up for the victory parade after the FA cup win, even with these factors why can we need sell 20,000 tickets every other week...

Whatever, we 'should' finally see this move happen in the coming years, so if we do lets just hope that it is the best thing for Pompey, and of course us!

Either way my thinking is that the new training complex, which we should have in place next summer, is more important than a new stadium at the moment anyway - but that's another debate!

  • What the poll asked - Which do you most want?

  • How you voted - A new 40,000-seater ground on Horsea Island? 72%, A redeveloped 35,000-seater Fratton Park? 28%

  • Current Poll - Club verses country is something that rears its head each time the international break comes round, but is this a problem for you?

    More and more of us groan when the international breaks come around, but why is this? Is this because Pompey means that much more to us than our nation? Are we so bored with the national side - whichever nation it might be - that we just do not want to see this? Or can we have room for both? This is what pentonpompey wants to know with this - 'Managers hate International breaks; but which means more to you. Club or Country?' Let the poll do the talking before we do when it finishes.

    Before we move on what are your thoughts on what the last poll concluded? You know what to do, thoughts below please guys...

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  • Writer:pompeyrug
    Date:Saturday September 6 2008
    Time: 9:20AM

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    Peter Storrie-teller is always saying that when we get a bigger stadium there'll be more scope for discounted tickets to get people in. Clearly there is plenty of interest in Pompey - we could have sold 50,000 cup final tickets, and look how many turned out for the parade - so I think it will be OK, we will get more when we get the new stadium.
    tracyc
    06/09/2008 12:07:00
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    .. but the community shield tickets weren't sold out Tracy ... 20- 25,000 hard core .. that's what I reckon we've got ..and then more depending on the fixture and the opposition ... We have great support when there's something at stake (promotion/relegation/cup runs etc..) but not when the opposition are poor and we are mid table... Also we need to ask ourselves how many that went to Wembley especially the semi, attend Fratton on a regular (10 games or more) a season... I understand the cost of going can be high and availability of tickets is also an issue.. but how many people really care about seeing Pompey rather than watching the opposition ... If a supporter is available and tickets are cheap... and available why won't we fill the ground for Chelsea Carling Cup game.. £20 and a fiver for kids.. surely nobony can complain at that... anyway.. given the choice I'd stay at Fratton every day of the week .. and move to a new stadium means a new brush will sweep clean.. and with the new rules and enforced protocol the few remaining traditions are club is build on will go with it. Fratton Park is the heart of Pompey.. Moving is like a heart transplant .. you might get a new one and feel good for a while but deep down you will know that it's not really you..
    Chix
    06/09/2008 12:47:00
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    until we can justify moving - as you have mentioned and i had - then we wont move anyway will we? and until we know we will sell out every other week regardless as to who we play we cannot really justify this can we?
    'if' or should i say 'when' we do get to this point then moving will be the only other option, as said i love fratton but we could not redevelop it into a 35,000-seater could we? or could we...
    pompeyrug
    06/09/2008 13:02:00
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    If the club wants to go forward and become 'bigger' and more 'global' then a new stadium is a must. As much as w all love Fratton Park it is a ****hole and we end up paying over the odds for the chance to go there. New stadiums are always a HUGE step but they can work very well just look at Man Sheiki, and Arsenal.
    sneakay
    06/09/2008 14:55:00
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    as well as helping further our progression as a big team, a state of the art stadium helps attract big players and, if it comes to it, a billionaire owner. N.B. i dont want a billionaire owner.
    jbaker
    06/09/2008 16:28:00
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    A new stadia attracts new fans, new corporate members & will at last look after the loyal 10-15,000 that go no matter what. Before I get too old, please can we have one.
    storagematt
    06/09/2008 17:40:00
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    As much as I like Fratton Park, the logistics of taking a car and parking are an absolute nightmare. That, together with the price, which Gandor Snr moans about (when he can remember) could scupper my chances of getting a season ticket next year. I wouldn't mind betting the reason why some of the 200,000 people who came to the parade don't go to the football is because they can't afford it, which is a shame. Portsmouth is still a very poor City.
    Gandor
    06/09/2008 18:26:00
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    PS: What if the Clubs charge a lot more for the TV rights and charge the fans less for their seats. That way, football retains some of its atmosphere and lets face it - magic, and the TV gets a better match to transmit. In any event, all these televised matches lessen the demand for the seats at current prices, but if seats were cheaper, more people would want to go rather than sit in the pub or at home.
    Gandor
    06/09/2008 18:29:00
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    We dont have a choice, neither in location nor reqiurement, lovely old FP is as gandor says an "absolute nightmare" logistically and as someone who was involved in an aborted previous development offer i can tell you FP is a cost nightmare in trerms of facilites management;Pompey simply cannot afford to stay there. Gandor is again right regards cost and accesibility it has beeen proved many times in sport if you up the quality of product and make the games more accessible you will get bums on seats and increase your catchment area, you get more resource and you can buy more quality, in mangement tripe it is called positive mutual dependancies. so lining up our ducks in a row, checking the box is beautifull and blue skying the scene the only deal breaker is that at the moment is both pompeys owners and Sellars Group the investor have 75% of their investment in property
    russellm
    07/09/2008 10:26:00
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    Positive mutual dependancies... I gonna use that tomorrow at work Russ ... I love it .. not sure what good it'll do me digging graves but hey I can use it all the same ;)... Did you mention 75% of the investment is coming from the STELLA'S group.. that must mean that as major contributor to their UK sales figures I must have at least a 10% controlling interest... As for FP being inaccessible, despite my love of the place I have to agree ... It's a nightmare.
    Chix
    07/09/2008 19:17:00
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