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Beer swillers in trouble/Hull in for Nugent

Beer swillers in trouble/Hull in for Nugent

Harry Redknapp has hit out at a group of 4 of our youth team players after their drunken antics at the victory parade following our FA cup win a couple of weeks back.

He has stated his displeasure at their actions and has put their futures with the club in doubt telling the Mail on Sunday: 'these four lads didn't play in the final, but they couldn't even put their beer down on the bus.

'We got back for the reception and the four of them just stood there until they were invited to go home.

'They're players at my club but they might not be for much longer.'

The 'drinking culture' was acceptable 'back in the day' but these days, not just because of the high expectations that are expected from these professionals but also because of the high profile nature of the game the right impression must be sent out - not to mention the fact that this was illegal when all is said and done.

All 4 are said to be English and Redknapp feels that this would not happen with 'the foreign lads': 'you get these 16-year-olds who think they have cracked it and aren't prepared to work and improve and put the hours in. You don't get that with the foreign lads.'

Whilst I do not condone the actions of these players could this not be a case of youthful exuberance - footballers or not? So would sacking them not be a tad too harsh, could it not be a case of cutting off your nose to spite your face? On the other hand once you are on the wrong side of the big man here it is hard to get back onto the right side as we know.

Yep, maybe they should be made an example of, but not to the strongest example - plus when all is said and done why were they allowed to have carried on drinking so long anyway, let alone be involved in the victory parade? Could a club official not have told them sooner that enough was enough...


Virtually from the minute that Dave Nugent signed for Pompey he has been 'on his way out again' if you believed all you read in the papers...

If you believe it again with what the News of the World is claiming then newly promoted Hull are now chasing him and although he is happy where he is, as he has told us over and over, it is still claimed that Harry Redknapp maybe still is not and would sell 'if the price was right'.

Lets not beat about the bush Nugent did struggle last season, but on the other hand he was not really given much of a chance and was carrying an injury for some time. Although when he did return from having the injury operated on he was looking a much better player, even if he was still not given much of a chance.

I hope that he stays, as I maintain the thoughts that he will be a fantastic footballer in the future given time, and is also a footballer we cannot write off just yet, as we have not done this to others in the past.

When all is said and done though it will be Redknapp and the club that knows best, so whatever is decided we will have to just accept as being the right thing - and in fairness it usually is isn't it...


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Date:Sunday June 1 2008
Time: 10:31AM


I think the Mail quoted verbatim HR's TalkSport interview.
01/06/2008 10:44:00
Shocking letting them drink at 16, those in charge should look at themselves!
01/06/2008 10:46:00
yep you are right with that - i was going to say that you had brought this to our attention a couple of days ago in the forum too, which you did.
01/06/2008 10:47:00
I have to disagree with Harry redknapp on this one. I was going to right an article about it, but it kept turning ito more of a rant, which i didnt thnk was apropriate... Every, 3 times a year, harry has a go at kids not wanting to put the effort into playing football. He keeps on saying that kids just expect to do well - but in reality, playing football for a club, especially the club they have supported all there life is a dream for most kids. something that will nev happen, even if they have the talent, as finding the talent for clubs can be very hard. however just becuase you can't see it when it is glaring at you in your face, it does not mean it, and the willingness to succeed is not there. in the article in the daily mail, it went into how harry would ask kids of they watched a big european game, and how "9 times out of 10" they would say 'no'. This is simply unbeleveable. if i ask any of my friends if they watched it, 9 times out of 10, they will say yes. only if the game is being shown on sky will they not have watched it (because they dont have ky) and even then, mostly they will have found a way around it. what i would like to know, is which kids are these that he is talking too, becuase they dont sound like your average kid that i know!
01/06/2008 10:59:00
and in regards to the drinking, i have a feeling that it must have been more than simply drinking too much. you can not sack someone for celebrating too hard, especially when they don't even have to come into work the next day as it is there summer break, and if they have just one the FA cup, i think they would be allowed t have a drink or two...or three..or five, or ten, or twenty or...
01/06/2008 11:01:00
Rug, your last paragraph sounds like P.F.C. already own Vital.
01/06/2008 11:03:00
0 onto nugent... i dont think he will leave. end of story.
01/06/2008 11:03:00
and finaly (well almost) Harry also said that it was a culture thing (the heavy drinking). Has he never been to the october fest in munich? where they only sell beer by the litre? other cultures drink heavily too, its just that when taken out of your comfort zone (i.e. livng abroad), many people do not want to get too drunk and embaras themselves...
01/06/2008 11:03:00
Carpet, HR did say in the same interview on the radio that in his day getting *****ed after the game was the order of the day - But, having heard the entire interview, I do think Harry is washing his whites with his jeans... seems to me that if the club had proper youth management in place then chaperoning would be the order of the day - and as for moaning in the same interview that the same kids don't follow soccer too closely on the box then who's fault is this? When I was 17 I didn't know my arse from my elbow and how I wish somebody had been around to show me the ropes. I'd say that if Pompey are investing in these kids them someone needs to look after their investment, after all bears ***** in the woods right? and kids will be kids...
01/06/2008 11:15:00
007, nope not at all - i say what i say because i want to say it, not because i feel it is the way everyone should feel, or i feel i have to say it or 'i think portsmouth football club want me to say it!'
we dont always agree with what the club does, but lets be honest we didnt want to lose matty taylor, gary o'neil, benjani and so on but ultimately the club have been - or at least will do next season - proved completely right! as much as i wanted to keep taylor and o'neil - and we missed him more than anyone - you just have to look at the clubs they went to for the answers with them in all fairness...
so hence my final paragraph: 'When all is said and done though it will be Redknapp and the club that knows best, so whatever is decided we will have to just accept as being the right thing - and in fairness it usually is isn't is.'
01/06/2008 11:20:00
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