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Defoe misses out on Spurs return

In typical fashion, as the way things seem to go involving Pompey - it is never straight forward, it has been confirmed that Jermain Defoe cannot feature again Spurs this weekend, as rules regarding loan deals then becoming permanent prevent this…

In fairness to Pompey, this does not appear to be our fault - unless we get a nasty surprise in the summer and he still has not signed for us after all, which we have been told he has, although I do not seriously think this is the case - as it is the rules that the premier league have in place that means he cannot face Spurs, a premier league spokesman said: 'the rules are clear. A player who is taken on loan and then during the course of the transfer window, if that loan is made permanent, he is not allowed to play against the team who originally loaned him'.

Apparently Harry Redknapp was first made aware of this by Peter Storrie on Wednesday, and as Redknapp told sky sports news this ruling has frustrated him, and he also feels it is a 'silly' one: 'it was news to me to be honest.

'What happened was we took Jermain on transfer deadline day night and obviously the Benjani deal was dragging on. And that wasn't getting done, so for us to get this through on time, Peter Storrie had to do it as a loan and then convert it to a full transfer after.

'By the time Benji had agreed at Man City it was in danger of over running the window. That was what the problem was. We couldn't agree it until that was done at Manchester City.

'We had to do a loan deal but it got converted to a full deal almost immediately. Now they are saying because it was a loan you can't go on loan and play against the club that loaned you out. It's a load of nonsense, it's some silly rule. There's nothing we can do about it.

'When was it made clear? I think it was last night. Peter rang me up and said 'we could have a problem here with Jermain'. But he thought it might be solved easily enough.

'We were all looking forward to him playing at White Hart Lane. He was popular there. It's nonsense really. It's been converted to a transfer and it only happened because the Benjani deal took so long. We couldn't complete the Jermain deal without the money. It was a back-to-back deal.

'Peter has been talking to people all day but it's difficult to change it at this stage. It's a blow'.

Benjani never actually went on loan to Man City as best I know, but it will be interesting to see if he will be allowed to play against us when we meet next month - which I will assume he will?

It is interesting though that Javier Mascherano did play against West Ham just a few weeks back however, despite having been on a similar long term loan deal from West Ham to Liverpool, only making it permanent recently… the spokesman said 'the rules are clear', this example seems to make it less clear to me, unless the 'ownership' issues of the Argentinean made things different in his case?

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Date:Friday March 21 2008

Time: 8:22AM

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Stupid rule, who does it benefit?
paultsmouth
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21/03/2008 08:48:00

Shame - he'd probably have scored at least once against us, but he'd have got a great reception at the Lane.
ParkLane67
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21/03/2008 09:04:00

Really unhappy that Jermaine cant play, really takes the gloss off the game, i just hope we go there and still give it a go.
Owenspompey
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21/03/2008 09:30:00

Spurs fans have told me he would get a great reception at the Lane too. Still life goes on eh and the Premier League make the rules!
eastneydave
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21/03/2008 09:36:00

I could understand it if JD was still on loan, but as has signed for us (hoping this is the case) I can't see the problem. So the we have no Sol, Sulley, Diop & JD. back to bare bones again. Thankfully the game doesn't matter as much as it could have done.
storagematt
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21/03/2008 09:50:00

Whats the point of this stupid rule? We paid a transfer fee for him to be our player it shouldn't matter if he was on loan before or not, he isn't now. Its enough that 9 minutes as a sub in the cup is enough to rule him out of our exciting cup run. And this match does matter, we still need to try and catch Everton. As yet no club has done the 'double' on us this season - I want it to stay that way.
tracyc
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21/03/2008 10:25:00

The rule is ridiculous. It was a great opportunity to go to the Lane and give Spurs a good go. As it happens because of a lack of strength and depth we're going to have to sit back, get men behind the ball and hoof it to Kanu and Baros. Actually that works for us a lot! 1-0 to Pompey?!
stillthewhizz
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21/03/2008 10:25:00

we should still have ambitions to go there and win, players that come in have a chance - altho 'arry probably already knows who he wants his semi final team to be - to try and force their way into his reckoning... the 'ownership' issues relating to mascherano could have something to do with things, but how come he could play for liverpool against west ham? and 'apparently' tevez still hasnt technically signed for united, not sure how true that is, but again how come he could face west ham?
pompeyrug
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21/03/2008 11:20:00

I don't understand why this is News. I read it weeks ago and thought you all knew. Am I in a parrallel universe?
jmd
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21/03/2008 11:22:00

well if it was around weeks ago i didnt see it, and apparently neither did most pompey and spurs fans, not forgetting defoe himself, and pompey cub officials...
pompeyrug
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21/03/2008 11:25:00

Erm....they can read can't they I'm sure their lawyers went through the paperwork at the time. Its not like somebodys suddenly charged up Portsmouth High St. waving a piece of hitherto unseen piece of paper......or did they?
jmd
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21/03/2008 11:28:00

well you would hope so... but the noises that weve been hearing all week seem to suggest that defoe didnt know this was going to be the case, 'arry didnt seem to think this was going to be the case - altho with him you can never fully tell - and judging from the reaction from pompey fans and many spurs fans, clearly yourself aside, we didnt know this would be the case either - hence this being news to us, even if it isnt to you...
pompeyrug
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21/03/2008 11:32:00

Well I am sure it was an original clause in his loan deal, it may just have been a casualty of trying to sign him at the last minute, I mean you can impose any clause you want generally in those last few minutes before midnight. I seriously think someone is being dishonest here, they must have known. Still good luck in the cup eh.
jmd
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21/03/2008 11:39:00

cheers, that is the main focus really isnt it when all is said and done... yep, you would probably expect that to be the case as far as figures within the club were concerned - it genuinely did surprise most of us fans tho...
pompeyrug
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21/03/2008 11:53:00

can't believe defoe can't play.least it gives nugent,kanu And baros a chance
stfc ballboy
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21/03/2008 12:29:00

Looks like it might be Utaka and Baros up front as Harry is keen to rest Kanu for the West Brom game.
stillthewhizz
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21/03/2008 12:41:00

Well, rules is rules isnt it! We dont have to like them, but do have to abide by them. Seems the botched benji deal is going to haunt us for a while longer. As long as it's consistent for all clubs.
pompey4me
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21/03/2008 17:13:00

 

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