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Ipswich patience wearing thin...

Despite an agreement being reached a while back between Pompey and Ipswich for them to take Dave Nugent on loan for the rest of the season, this has still not gone through as it is 'believed' he wants to get himself back to match fitness after a groin injury.

Jim Magilton however seems to be running out of patience: 'we need a decision from the lad. If he's coming this week then fine, if not we'll look elsewhere'.

It is a strange one, and seems to be a similar situation to the one he was in last summer when things dragged on with the 'will he, wont he' move here, and firstly Sunderland - who did eventually lose patience with him… Everything seemed sorted with Ipswich, but for whatever reason this is dragging on again.

The word coming from Pompey and Ipswich last week was that he 'wanted to get himself fit again ready to play before he goes', but Pompey had said 'he would not be made to go if he did not want to' - so does he want to go, that could be a key question?

There is 'reported' late interest from Stoke, so this could also be holding things up as he could favour that move more, but they might not have the finances to offer what Ipswich do, which could be a factor on our part, as Ipswich were 'said' to be offering a good financial package…

Whatever though, again this is another ridiculous transfer 'on and off' that we are involved in and is dragging on, it needs to be put to bed… is it really that hard?

If he wants to go he should go - Pompey have made it clear he can, if he does not want to go then he should say he does not want to. This is just my thought but it seems to be pointing towards him not wanting to go as fitness could be worked on at Ipswich could it not if all has been agreed?

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Date:Tuesday March 4 2008

Time: 12:32PM

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They said on The Quay last week that the move was off because Nuge didn't want to go, and instead wanted to stay and fight for his place. Then again, is what he wants actually taken into account anyway?
tracyc
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04/03/2008 12:53:00

that is the concern isnt it tracy, if he doesnt want to go but we want him to - for the money - then if he doesnt then he will probably not get a lookin anyway, if he goes but doesnt want to then he'll not be happy where he goes...

tbh ive defended the fella and keep saying he will come good - which i still feel he will - but his off the field antics are probably not helping him, he is often behaving like a fool, so is this because he wants to play but isnt getting a a fair chance, or is he not getting a chance to playing becuase of that? or is it a bit of both...

pompeyrug
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04/03/2008 12:59:00

when i say he will come good, it might not be here when he does...
pompeyrug
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04/03/2008 13:00:00

I have defended him too but after a series of injuries loan to the end of the season might be a good thing for him. Worked for GON at the same sort of age.
eastneydave
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04/03/2008 13:52:00

I feel sorry for the lad. I can't remember a situation where a player was bought and within a week or two, the boss was practically begging people to come in and buy him. He must have known he was in for a rough ride right there and then, but he's stuck at it and tried to fight for a place in the first team. Now we're at the Benjani stage all over again, he (seemingly) doesn't want to go and the club are showing every indication they can't wait to get shot of him. I agree with you, Rug, I think he will come good, and I think we'll probably end up with egg on our face when he does. Whether he goes now or waits till the summer for a possible move to a premiership club, he must know by now that Harry doesn't want him.
PhilTaglia
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04/03/2008 13:55:00

I can see parallels with both Fuller and Kamara. Kamara in particular looked great for WBA last season but this year at Fulham seemed a yard off the pace. Sanchez and Al Fayed in particular will rue that transaction with some displeasure.
ChrisW
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04/03/2008 14:39:00

Will all the goals we've scored lately and the FA Cup draw this weekend, why are we loaning him out ?
Toronto4Pompey
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04/03/2008 14:47:00

when you look at all the strikers that have made the step up again this season, off the top of my head only kenwyne jones has really made an impact hasnt he... kamara, chopra and nugent - all big money signings have failed to deliver - granted maybe they migh not have played as regularly as they would have liked, but it does show the step up isnt easy, and can take time - you cant just make the leap like that, well few can...
pompeyrug
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04/03/2008 15:36:00

Toronto - I think HR views him as spent
ChrisW
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04/03/2008 15:40:00

I forgot about Chopra - he scored on his debut didn't he? Spurs? Robinson?
ChrisW
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04/03/2008 15:41:00

yep it was an injury time winner i think wasnt it, as said against spurs...
pompeyrug
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04/03/2008 15:43:00

the whole nugent dealing has been strange, clearly something isnt right, but pretty much off the bat it seemed things were wrong - what the deal is i dont know, i dont buy into the 'sacha bought him' and 'arry had no option thoughts, as 'arry wouldnt be told who to, or who not to buy, besides if he had been told to buy him would he not have been told to play him... strange business, as i said before the step up isnt easy, it doesnt look like its going to work with him here - for whatever reason, maybe a combination of reasons - but he'll be back and 'if' or 'when' he goes i will wish him luck, he will be a good footballer im sure tho.
pompeyrug
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04/03/2008 15:46:00

Five goals in the last nine home games - surely the blame can't all be put at Nugent's door? We should keep him and give him a break. I've a lot of time for HR but he makes a lot of contradictory statements; he did the same over Benji - he blows hot and cold and then hot....oh, and then cold about players and, most recently, about our paucity or, sorry, Harry, wealth, no you meant paucity.....oh, make up your mind....of striking options.
NinjaTim
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04/03/2008 16:06:00

hopefully he will be fit for the weekend because he can play up front against united in a 4-5-1 formation.
stfc ballboy
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04/03/2008 17:08:00

I think the deal will fall thru. Ipswich will get fed up waiting. He dithered about joining us because he wanted Everton. You can see why Moyes only wanted to pay £4m & no more.
storagematt
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04/03/2008 19:41:00

Yep, i agree, Moyes realised he was over priced and we were the ones who bit. However i hope that Nugent stays and proves me wrong, because i think he will not make the grade in the Premiership.
Owenspompey
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04/03/2008 19:55:00

cant decide on this one. I really want nugent to succeed for pompey, and think he can - BUT i also dont want to see a bright young prospects career end. If he doesnt move on, then maybe he will just become yet another reserve, but if we loan him out, he will inevitablky get sold, and end up being a star elsewhere. what do we do???
pompeycarpet
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04/03/2008 22:29:00

The BBC Sports site is now reporting that Ipswich have definitely pulled out. So it's either Stoke or he stays put until the summer.
PhilTaglia
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04/03/2008 23:33:00

What a pallaver ...one and off more times than an hedgehog on a hairbrush.. It's obvious (now) that Nuge doesn't have a future at Fratton Park.. Whose fault it is I think we can debate for some time. But the we spent heavily on Nugenet, Utaka & Muntari in the summer .. money well spent? .... I think perhaps not.
Chix
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05/03/2008 07:48:00

Chix, if you believe what you say about Nugent, Utaka and Muntari then that becomes a fundemental issue of no confidence in HR considering this is the core of the team, well in 2 out of 3 cases...
ChrisW
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05/03/2008 10:14:00

in all honesty it hasnt proved money well spent so far has it - potentially all 3 are top class footballers, maybe the fact that some have been given 'too easier' ride hasnt help, no matter how much thety cost if they are not delivering they need to earn a place, taking them out to make them hungry could work - if players dont like being dropped and dont accept it, get rid and get players that want to play... yep, i know we had these but im not opening that can of worms again...
pompeyrug
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05/03/2008 11:19:00

 

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